Ywn live in a pagan world where no islam or christianity and every civilization has its own beliefs and rituals

Thank God.

>Buddhism is explicitly anti-pagan. In their text they talk down towards paganism.
Do you have any proves for that? Buddhism syncretizing with polytheistic faiths perfectly and there are lots of proves: tengrism in Mongolia, sanjism in Korea, bonpo in Tibet, hellenism in Greeco-Bactria, shintoism in Japan.

God is one, whatever any religion call him. If you can't see it, you're just far from true believing.

God is (n)one

>Europeans degradated to almost cavemen tier after adopting christianity
>"If no christianity we would live worse..."

Being serious, a monotheistic religion was the only thing that kept some sort of unity in the Roman world and even created the European identity (then known as Christendom)
Christianity just made the inevitable fall of Rome less of a shitshow than it could have been, imagine actually believing that without Christianity we would have reached the space age even though the likes of China and India didn't reach that level of technological advancement.

I don't have it on the top of my head but I remember reading Buddhist scriptures that were contrasting what was viewed as inferior pagan practices such as animal sacrifice of to the enlightened Buddhist.

I think the problem is that every religion calls every other religion pagan as an insult, so it's easy to get confused, but in truth Buddhism is a religion which is reactionary against paganism, much like Christianity. This is treating paganism as an actual phenomenon and not "whatever I want it to be"

Buddhist truth-claims aren't really the same as pagan truth claims. And there would be a clash. In East Asia, Buddhism's so called "syncretism" with paganism as you call develmped over a long period of centuries, not over night. In Japan, Buddhism changed Shintoism just as much as Shintoism might have changed Buddhism.

God as we have conceived it isn't even a describable entity let alone ''one'' such that can be put into numeral conceptions or language, or as I once read somewhere ''Divinity is that there is no god but gods'', otherwise I don't believe in anything but I wish I could
The point of religion I think is to believe whatever you want to think is true, and use it to better yourself in this world, thereby religion becoming a thing in itself

if it wasn't for anti-Christian movements we wouldn't be here either

oh look, the FAGan wannabe is actually a fedora! who the fuck could have seen that coming??

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All those technological advancements came after europeans started think more free from religion but i happened only after millenium since christianity was adopted while there wasnt such problem with hellenic faith. So your statements are very questionable.

Sure

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Buddhism doesnt care about faith. You can believe whatever you want. When the rituals are contradict to buddhist principles it just change them. For example koreans used to sacrifice humans to god Sanji but when they adopted buddhism it made their faith adn gods less bloodthirsty. Isn't it great?
May be buddhism would make every pagan religion in the world better.

I defended my thread from.monotheists attack. Hail Tengri!
Now the problem is to not let it drown. Gods bless me.

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Fkn abrahamics...

neopagan cringelords

>guy who murdered his best friend in a coke fueled orgy rampage places futile hopes that no higher powers exist
ho ho ho just wait for his judgement day. be it Jesus or Hella, things ain’t looking good.

Who are you talking about?

..which had it's origin in the western christian nations, most of these "anti-christian" sentiment that arised during the modern era were at best directed at catholicism and had more to do with the christian reformation, and even then, a good part of scientists during the modern era were undoubtedly christians until the 19th-20th century, while some see science as being an inevitable process of civilization, most don't realize that it wasn't pursued by most civilizations for most of humanity's history because they didn't see any benefit to it, modern science as we know it undoubtedly came in western christian nations and was pursued mostly by christians
the reason as to why science is studied heavily around the world today is due to western influence in those countries (which admittedly has also been influenced by hellenistic and muslim work)

besides, i wasn't talking about the reasoning behind modern technological advancement, I was talking about how the claim of some atheists about christians having been responsible for the dark ages and how we would have reached spage age earlier without it is fallacious

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>good part of scientists during the modern era were undoubtedly christians
This proves nothing you know. If a scientist believes in something it doesnt mean he is a scientist because of his faith. There is more hellenic cultural influence to science than christian. Ofc late scientists werent hellenic because hellenism was displaced but it doesnt make christianity any more helpful for science. There are more hellenistic stuff in science like skepticism and rationality which were regarded as heathen things by christian for a long time.
What is attractive thing of hellenism which abscent in christianity is free thinking. Antique philosophers were more free in their ideas while in medieval christian world you would be punished hard if your views dont match to dogmas and Bible.

Proves what? I'm not claiming that Science is dependent on religion, or any belief whatsoever, science is entirely neutral on that matter and just a branch to study more about our surroundings and the universe. What I'm claiming is that the Christian world has been influencial in creating modern science, even though many today see it as conflicting with it, it most certainly wasn't pursued by other cultures the same way as it was done in the western world, and we can't know for sure if it ever would have been pursued, all I can say is that despite some of the setbacks due to the dogmas, the christian world pursued science more than any other nations, and even helped some of the advancement made by the greco-romans have more public access.

>What I'm claiming is that the Christian world has been influencial in creating modern science
No it wasn't and I alreasy explained why
>There is more hellenic cultural influence to science than christian. Ofc late scientists werent hellenic because hellenism was displaced but it doesnt make christianity any more helpful for science. There are more hellenistic stuff in science like skepticism and rationality which were regarded as heathen things by christian for a long time.

Actual reason why the science stepped so forward in Europe is developing of capitalism and it would developed under any other religion. Christianity is actually obstructing to the science and thats why many educate people in Europe back then weren't of classical religious view(even though they believed in God and even may be praised Christ). The wisest of hellenists also already understood myths and gods as something symbolic noy literal and they hadn't problem with religion.

The problem is that you're looking at the hellenistic influence in science and concluding by it that modern science was entirely influence by itd without any other cultural influence, which isn't exactly the case. Most civilizations inherit from their ancestors or other advanced neighbors, which doesn't exactly undermine their work just because they have been influenced by previous ones, judeo-christian values were implimented in western civilization alongside hellenistic ones and helped revolutionize some of the works previously done, such as giving public access to hospitals while it was mostly dedicated to the military and the elites in the Roman Empire before christianization and having been responsible for creating modern universities. I won't deny the hellenistic influence in their work, however, it's to be expected that the western world would continue to retain the work from their ancestors, that doesn't undermine their work or means that the credit goes entirely to the previous civilization.

cant tell if you are positive about paganism

Abrahamic religion was our greatest mistake

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The problem is you dont understand my words the way you should. I see individual contributions to science not of the whole religion. And hellenistic is more preferable because as I said earlier
>What is attractive thing of hellenism which abscent in christianity is free thinking. Antique philosophers were more free in their ideas while in medieval christian world you would be punished hard if your views dont match to dogmas and Bible.

For example the skepticists weren't hellenic at all they were more like atheists or agnostics. But they lived in hellenic society and had no problem with it while in medieval europe they would be burned in pyres.

Ok, I'll grant it to you that the progress of science is done by individual work, but it can also go hand to hand when pursued in a organized way, and historically, it has been patronized by christianity despite some of the setbacks I mentioned before, for example, although some may think that in the 15th century christians believed in a flat earth, most of the educated people knew that it was formed as a sphere, and the catholic church didn't oppose that view even though one would get the impression that the earth is flat if they read the Bible, the Catholic Church's persecution of some of the scientists had more to do with them questioning the bible authority than the dogma contradiction (which isn't necessarily better, mind you), for example, Galileo didn't exactly have the tools to support his heliocentric model theory and it wasn't until gravity was discovered that the theory got accepted, there were other scientists that suggested the heliocentric theory and didn't get the same flame as Galileo, mostly because they didn't question the church authority the same way as Galileo did.

The point is, that the church as a whole didn't exactly have a problem with theories that contradicted their dogmas and would roll with it if further evidence was provided, the problem started when some started to openly oppose the church authority, and that's when most of the infamous persecutions occurred (which was worse, but that's another matter entirely). Now, if some were skeptical about the belief altogether, I'll admit that the idea wasn't tolerated as much as the contradicting dogma and it was downright dangerous.

the Catholic Church's persecution of some of the scientists had more to do with them questioning the church authority*

>every civilization has its own beliefs and rituals
we still would have converted the shit out of each other and left lots of cultures without their original beliefs

Nah, pagan religions were more openly tolerant of other faiths and sometimes syncronized them.