Holy Molly, Mattis was the last fuse in the system. After removing him...

Russia can't do anything against NATO or EU countries. They were too chickenshit to put their forces in Donetsk and Lugansk and advance into Kiev, let alone risk away a war with Turkey after they literally shot down one of their Su-24s. Even if they manage to convince Trump to pull out every American soldier from Europe and every nuke from Germany, Europeans have bigger numbers, better intelligence, better technology, much more money, the defensive advantage and most importantly, the euro which makes two things sure: 1) China won't get involved because it loves selling cheap toys in euros, 2) Russia won't commit economic suicide by attacking its largest by far source of hard currency, its gas and oil customers with bank accounts full of euros.
The only way a war between Europe and Russia would be a *European* attack, not a Russian attack. That's why I'm not sure that a EU army is a good idea. All it takes for a war with Russia is a commander in chief from the Butthurt Belt who's salty that his uncle fled Budapest in '56, or his grandma's village's women were liberated by Ivan in '45, etc. If a EU army is founded, its commander must always be French or German. Anything else would be irresponsible.

Russian snap exercises that they make on monthy basis engage more troops and equipment than most of European armies have. Moreover, they have the biggest arsenal of tactical nukes in the world, so they can remove your technologically advanced equipment with relatively low cost

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It's Moly, not Molly.

>Russia won't commit economic suicide

Russia already committed it. It failed to develop economy after fall of Soviet Union and its population lives only thanks to selling hydrocarbons, and since the USA launched the enrgetical revolution, we can expect prices of these hydrocarbons going down in next decade now, which kills Russia. So Russia has basically nothing to lose.

>USA is really in bad shape. No wonder that it refuses to spend another trillions dollar on the Middle East. What i am curious about is if the USA is already so fucked up that it would need to leave Eurasia as well. It would cause hardcore tectonic plates movement in global geopolitics that could end with WW3. Then USA could stay away from this and observe as its opponents are blooding out, they could also make money on this war to recover economically while getting rid of global competition by turning a lot of foreign economies and nations into ruin. And if one player emerges from this mess that is too strong, USA would come back to active politics to contain him.

If i was a leader of the USA, i would go for it, but only as the last resort option with no alternatives, if i knew that it is the only possible solution, because this is very risky and situation could develop in too many ways to even remotely predict it

>t. 16 yo

>Russian snap exercises that they make on monthy basis engage more troops and equipment than most of European armies have.
It's obvious that Russia is paranoid, and for good reason. There are US bases in eastern Europe and central Asia, inside territory that most Russians still recall as being part of their same country. Former Warsaw Pact countries are firmly in NATO and ruled by people who are bitter that they ever belonged to the Warsaw Pact and the socialist world. If New Jersey and Oregon became independent and five years later China built military bases there, and then Mexico and Canada joined an alliance with China, the USA would be properly paranoid.
> they have the biggest arsenal of tactical nukes in the world, so they can remove your technologically advanced equipment with relatively low cost
Nukes exist so that there is never another
WW1 or WW2 between superpowers. The only total war between two states since '45 was Iran vs Iraq, neither of which had nukes. All other wars involving nuclear powers (Vietnam vs USA, India vs Pak, India vs China, China vs Vietnam, USA vs Iraq, USSR vs Afghanistan, UK vs Argentina etc etc etc) were limited wars. Anyway France has nukes too, nobody is going to press the button, not even Pakistan did after losing Kargil.
>we can expect prices of these hydrocarbons going down in next decade now, which kills Russia. So Russia has basically nothing to lose
That's another reason for Russia not to risk wars with the West. They need to hoard Western hard currency (€, $) in order to buy Western technology, diversify their economy and join the future world if they don't want to die. Being surrounded by two technological and economic superpowers like the EU and China, both having many times the population of Russia, the last thing Russians need is to Leeroy Jenkins into nuclear war.

Mattis was part of the swamp. I'm glad he's out.

>It's obvious that Russia is paranoid, and for good reason.

Russia is preparing itself to attack, not to defence. All these snap exercises are engineered for huge offensive in the western direction. Russia doesn't need to be afraid of being attacked because it has the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world.

> nobody is going to press the button

Russia created a military doctrine 3 years ago that makes Russia able to use tactical nukes (delivered by cruise missiles f.e.) to attack non-nuclear countries and/or destroy foreign troops. They are also training it all the time during snap exercises.

>Being surrounded by two technological and economic superpowers like the EU and China

Russia concluded that China is already to strong to fuck with, so they fuck with weak, demoralized and disarmed Europe instead

based
mutts get the fuck out

Trump is such a fucking retard

When will mutts finally become irrelevant?

Oh Bogdan

>mmuh sanctions
>mmuh russian economy is fucked

meanwhile, Nord Stream 2 is under construction.

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Nord stream won't fix your broken economy.

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Sino-Russian alliance will rule the world

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I very much hope not.

Why doesn’t Russia join EU, it would fix all their porblems without endangering the position oif entrenched Putinist elite? It seems like they realy swallowed Dugin’s bullshit about apocalyptic strugle between eternal Rome and eternal Carthago that has to end with one exterminating the other.

The percentage of people that would like to join the EU in Russia is small, although I'm one of them. The elite will cockblock such ideas at their birth anyway.

Why are americans pretending that they are enjoying being fucked in the ass by russians? Is it because they are so embarrassed and horrified that a shitty third world country like russia managed to trick them into electing a manchurian candidate?

>Everyone who goes against trump is now "probably a democrat"

why are people such fucking stooges for populists and then turn around and go "you guys are cucks lmao"

>Why are americans pretending that they are enjoying being fucked in the ass by russians?

Where exactly they are being 'fucked in the ass by Russians'? Give at least one example.

>basing all your economic hope on a pipeline

No such thing as butthurt belt. Only Realism Belt.

Tell me, how would an attack on Russia start?

>NOOO!!! This can't be happening! They were supposed to be natural ennemies that only got closer because of circumstances!

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If you Russians truly believe those countries being part of Russia was something good and justified you're more fucked up than people think.

>Russia is preparing itself to attack
>>>>>>>>>>>/wykop/

Yeah, oil is plummeting with ruble. Let's see how that goes.

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They actually are natural enemies, at least from perspective of Russia. That's because China is becoming powerful too fast for Russia to counterbalance it, which means that Russia is going to be vassalized by China and its whole remote territories would be gravitating economically towards China instead of impoverished Moscow, if nothing changes in the meantime and Chinese growth is maintained. You can't just kill geopolitics with using cordial diplomacy and empty words about friendship and strategic partnership

Russians would be able to move to EU and start working against Europeans en masse and prepare for another genocide attempt from the inside. Russians are already illegal immigrants in Baltic states.

Are you an idiot? Their entire country is in freefall because they believed russian memes and elected the worst possible choice as president.

Actually he's technically not a manchurian candidate as such, because I doubt trump would even have the braincells to follow russian marching orders. He's the manchurian idiot, a mentally challenged who has been given a set of firematches and let loose in a fireworks factory.

And still americans pretend that everything is fine, which is the best part. Hopefully when they finally realise how badly they've been fucked over they'll just nuke russia and rid the world of that headache forever.

>Are you an idiot? Their entire country is in freefall because they believed russian memes and elected the worst possible choice as president.

Is it a joke? The USA has a lot of internal problems that it must urgently deal with, because otherwise it is going to end like Soviet Union or worse. Trump is only embodient of one of strategies to take America out of the shitter.

Trump isn't literally a russian spy, but it's pretty clear at this point that russian media influencers wanted him in. Isolationist, divisive nationalists are amazing for Russia. This isn't Skyrim or some shit where A small nationalist country will become a greater problem for the bigger threatening nation through the sheer force of their PATRIOTIC MANHOOD, all of these strongmen getting elected are just weakening the position of Russia's opponents in the West.

Not to mention, you know, several people taken to court by mueller with close associations to trump have heavily implied he made some kind of deal with them during the campaign, be it for dirt on clinton, a cushy deal for trump tower moscow, or whatever.

>because otherwise it is going to end like Soviet Union or worse
We can only hope so.

>russian media influencers wanted him in.

So what? Why do you imply that Russia should have any influence on election process in the USA? If Russia seems to support some US president candidate, it means that Americans shouldn't vote for him? So Russia can pretty much manipulate your elections, if you believe that things should be like this

>Trump isn't literally a russian spy
Hard to think of any other reason why he never says anything to criticise Putlin while shits on every other world leader. He always sucks Russian cock. Always.

>We can only hope so.

The world with USA being destroyed wouldn't be any better for anyone, including USA's opponents.

They already destroyed this region, what do I care?

Your region is a shithole mainly because of Russian influence, i guess

This

On the contrary.

I want to kill all romanians. Including women and children, yes.

Pompeo is literally the last one with a brain and I think DeVoss might be the only remaining original cabinet member.

>On the contrary.

Macedonia is a landlocked country placed far away from big trade routes and placed outside of Rimland. Your country would most probably stay poor forever, if the Chinese don't manage to create Silk Road to Western Europe.

You're a fucking idiot. I really believe you are actually stupid.

>not warmongering and sticking our fingers in other people's pies
>isolationism
This isn't isolationism. It's non-interventionism. China and Russia do just fine without having a military presence in Mexico or Canada. Do we need to have our tentacles in every corner of the world?

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secretly kind of hope Trump bungles his way into another world war. rest of the world needs to be reduced to rubble again, getting way too uppity for my taste

He only directly threatened Putin when we, the UK, and France bombed Syria

And creates even bigger ones.

actual redpilled posts

You're a complete dumbass that doesn't understand what NATO is.

And Polish men will always be cheap slaves for the west while Polish women staff for their brothels.
But that's all ok because Russia xdd
schizo freak

that sounds much better than muslisms tho

How will I recover.

He warned Russia's allies (Syria and Iran) and Russia before the strike. Might as well just not do it.

You can't attack Russia because they have nukes but Russia constantly attacks its neighbours without a reason and Russia's neighbours hope for friends and allies to stop the horrible Russian world from spreading. Living in Russia is absolutely horrible compared to the EU.

The international law allows countries who are being attacked to receive help but not attack wars that Russia started to oppress, enslave and replace Euros.

If Americans don't want to help people who are being attacked it's fine but of course Americans won't be viewed like before. Especially when the US president actively supports the Russian attacker instead of being just neutral.

stupid

>If Americans don't want to help people who are being attacked it's fine but of course Americans won't be viewed like before. Especially when the US president actively supports the Russian attacker instead of being just neutral.
We're in a Catch-22. If we intervene, we are condemned as bloodthirsty warmongers.
If we leave or stay away from places we're not wanted, we are condemned for inaction. Do you want us as GloboCops or not?

He's now going to shut down the government over wall autism. Lmao

You don't judge a real man by how he begins, but only how he ends. Poland has much bigger geopolitical, demographic, economical and military potential than Macedonia - we have great "hardware" for success, worse with the software. If we had wise elite, our possibilities of growth are practically unlimited with our internal potential and geographic location. Meanwhile Macedonia's geopolitical and internal potentials are so small that you are destined to be shithole forever, unless smth extraordinary happens like your region gaining from Chinese Silk Road f.e.

>If we intervene, we are condemned as bloodthirsty warmongers.
only by retards like chomsky, who support people like chavez or pol pot

Literally the only thing I agreed with Trump on was getting the fuck out of Syria and Afghanistan. Took him 2 years and he couldn't even do it with bombing the shit out of Syria first. Fucking clown.

Ah, is it time for the 'America turns inward' phase of modern history again? I thought we were at least another 20 years off from that.

Chomskyites only oppose US wars when conservatives are waging them. Obama bombed more people than Dubya, and the former still got a Noble Peace Prize.
All the same, a bunch of camel jockeys blowing each other up for being the wrong kind of Muslims is not America's business. Let 'em do it, the civilized world will not miss them.

He's left in the worst way possible too.

>You can't attack Russia because they have nukes but Russia constantly attacks its neighbours without a reason and Russia's neighbours hope for friends and allies to stop the horrible Russian world from spreading. Living in Russia is absolutely horrible compared to the EU.

And why would the USA care if Europe, including Finland, is buying Russian gas and oil? Would you buy gas and oil from a man who had plans to enslave you and/or kill you? At the same time European armies are simply a joke. Just put yourself in the USA's shoes: Americans spend collosal money on protection of very rich countries from Russia although these countries obviously don't wish to be protected because they increase their trade with Russia. I would abolish NATO today if i was Trump, to be honest.

>We're in a Catch-22. If we intervene, we are condemned as bloodthirsty warmongers.
If things were played according to intl law nobody would say this i.e. only support countries that have been attacked. Of course Euros do a lot of Russian cocksucking by themselves too but NATO bases aren't bad in Europe.

Like in Austria Russia even infiltrated their intelligence service. Say epic memes as much as you want about the deep state but a country needs a Russian free intelligence. If Trump fucks up CIA you won't ever have reliable intel and you're always playing a poor hand in any negotiations.

why are mexicans so stupid?

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Intel services have been mostly in freefall since the Obama administration. The Snowden leaks really caused Congress to defang them.