We are all descendants of Noah

ok you got me

Why did the Summerians have glue before 4000 BCE?

...to repair broken things?

He was a damn pig.

What about abo?

they didn't

the flood occured in the 3rd millenium BCE, it is
during this millenium that they later spread across the land

like I said, they descend from Ham, posibly from Cush

>no argument
Where did all the water go?
If evolution is impossible because of thermodynamics how can a chick develop from an egg?
How do you explain radioactive dating based on half lifes dating things to be much older than 6000 years? Especially with sediments unaffected by radiation from the sun?

and modern genetics can tell that this is bullshit due that heavy inbreeding would lead to broken dna in not so many generations in as complex organism as humans and you don't really read about earth being populated by literal tards later in bible.

not at the beginning, we were close to perfection so inbreeding wasn't an issue back then

modern genetics of reliable sources confirm that all of mankind descend from a single human couple

>Where did all the water go?

prior to the Flood the waters above the expanse shielded out some of the harmful radiation and that, with the waters gone, cosmic radiation genetically harmful to man increased

This may have caused tremendous changes in earth’s surface. The earth’s crust, which is relatively thin and varied in thickness, is stretched over a rather plastic mass thousands of kilometers in diameter

Hence, under the added weight of the water, there was likely a great shifting in the crust. In time new mountains evidently were thrust upward, old mountains rose to new heights, shallow sea basins were deepened, and new shorelines were established, with the result that now about 70 percent of the surface is covered with water

This shifting in the earth’s crust may account for many geologic phenomena, such as the raising of old coastlines to new heights. It has been estimated by some that water pressures alone were equal to “2 tons per square inch,” sufficient to fossilize fauna and flora quickly

Remains of mammoths and rhinoceroses have been found in different parts of the earth. Some of these were found in Siberian cliffs; others were preserved in Siberian and Alaskan ice. In fact, some were found with food undigested in their stomachs or still unchewed in their teeth, indicating that they died suddenly. It is estimated, from the trade in ivory tusks, that bones of tens of thousands of such mammoths have been found. The fossil remains of many other animals, such as lions, tigers, bears, and elk, have been found in common strata, which may indicate that all of these were destroyed simultaneously.

Nice copypasta, you’re totally not shitposting from some creationist blog you found
How did the population of the world grow? How does it account for having enough labourers to build the puramids of egypt at their time?
How did Emus end up in Australia?
The lifespan for DNA is 150,000 years. Why can’t we find intact DNA within dinosaur fossils but we can in found Mammoths?

Bible also said God made Balaam's ass start talking to him, who cares? Broken clock is right twice a day.

Takes this to /his/.

Do you have any proof that didn't happen?

>How did the population of the world grow?

by breeding and eating healthy

How does it account for having enough labourers to build the puramids of egypt at their time?

the bible doesn't talk about the pyramids nor the early history of Egypt besides that Mizraim (a son of Ham) is their ancestor, but it does talk about slavery so they probably used slaves to build the pyramids

>How did Emus end up in Australia?

the findings of oceanographers indicate that at one time land ridges connected what are now isolated land areas. For example, oceanographic studies indicate that the Mid-Atlantic Ridge may have crossed that ocean above the surface. Possibly there were also other ridges, and animals could have migrated by means of these before such ridges sank below the surface of the ocean

Other oceanographic studies have turned up evidence that once there existed a huge South Pacific continent that took in Australia and many of the South Sea isles

the animals had no difficulty in migrating to these lands.

>The lifespan for DNA is 150,000 years. Why can’t we find intact DNA within dinosaur fossils but we can in found Mammoths?

I don't understand what you are saying

any other questions ?

Burden of proof lies on you. Next.

Continental sediment and them being composed largely of granite is explained by them emerging from volcanic activity at the bottom of the ocean as so called ‘cratons’ your explanation does not explain the peculiar composition of continents as compared to land under the ocean.

the ass didn't talk, it was an angel

So a non answer for the first question
The second question was a meme question from how a creationist who edited the article on wikipedia for evolution for some reason dedicated an entire section to emus and on the third question you just short circuited. Nice.

Now you're revising your own source when it doesn't suit you. Coward.

He and his descendants were literally cursed by Noah.

Also, anyone who believes this is a retard.

another proof of the deluge having happened is that you can find the flood myth in EVERY culture on earth

from the Chinese to the Babylonians and the Mayans to the Africans

they all have recorded the history of the flood because it was a true event

God brought the flood to destroy the wicked humans on earth as well as the Nephilim, who were half-men half-demon

there are similar accounts across the world, like in Greek mythology when Zeus brought the flood to destroy Giants, and so did the Incan god Viracocha

It is not a coincidence

>the Africans
>a single culture

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>So a non answer for the first question

I literally answered your question

No only Canaan was cursed, he either raped or castrated Noah

all the African cultures have a flood myth

Because those societies either lived in river valleys that flooded or were in contact with societies like that.
Besides the first flood myth is over 6000 years old lmao

I edited it so it can be read more clearly

stop being paranoid you weirdo

Prove it.

no, the deluge occured in 2370

all these cultures know about the deluge because they have been told by their ancestors Shem, Ham and Japheth

in time they distorted the account, the real version being preserved in the Genesis

Yeah you gave a non answer. I want the rate of population growth during the ages from having only a few siblings 6000 years ago populate the earth to having enough workers to build the pyramids at the time they were built and this not resulting in the population of today being like fifteen trillion without having some arbitrary slowdown in population growth somewhere in history. Protip you can’t.

there is no such thing as perfect, there is at best middle road when it comes to genetics and dna. You can't have elephant with mouse metabolism and vice versa. You can't have high resistances for everything harmful meanwhile having high complex functionality. Also there is this thing called "evolution" that you must have heard of that can quite well tell you why there isn't single human pair as common ancestor.

You're larping as a biblical fundamentalist for laughs whilst changing scripture when it becomes impossible for you agree with it. Weak sauce.

It is completely arbitrary that you say the genesis version is the real version when older accounts exist(some of which likely inspired the genesis version)

talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

>(some of which likely inspired the genesis version)

They did. We know this for as close to a fact as we can get for these kind of things.

nope, the Bible is a book you can trust from beginning to end when compared to other books

I count maybe nine examples. So not "all" by any means.

do the math yourself

>as we can get for these kind of things

So "likely inspired".

there are Three Subsaharan families

the Bantu
the Khoisan
the Nilotic

they all have a flood myth

Next

Nah, they've been able to demonstrate somekind of linguistic progression behind the name Noah from a name of earlier hero.

Plus, it is literally the same goddamn story.

it's the other way around

>being surprised that grugs throughout the world described the end of the ice age

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I’m not going to give your desired answer for you. The math is there already: it’s impossible without some completely arbitrary slowdown in population growth. So you’re willing to accept my mathematical conclusion? It doesn’t matter because you’re probably not even a creationist, just a shitposter.

Those are millions of people whilst hugely diverse cultures between them. Of course you're going to find a story involving flooding somewhere in there. Doesn't mean they share the story, or even have the same story.

>it’s impossible without some completely arbitrary slowdown in population growth

where's your proof ?

they do share the same original story, that broke into different versions

Objectively incorrect. We have versions of the Babylonian flood myth from securely dated contexts thousands of years before the Israelites even emerged as a distinct group around the beginning of the Iron Age. It's Babylonian myth, that was almost certainly picked up during the Exile around 500 BCE.

Rationalisation.

If we contradicting stories, Occham's Razor demands that they had alternate origins.

wrong again

the Hebrews started writing the Bible somewhere in the 1500s BCE after their deliverance from Egypt

The Babylonian and Sumerian flood myths were written before, but the Jews inscribed the true event

So do you think the Jews foresaw the decline and disappearance of Mesopotamian legends, thus giving credence to their own account as having no antecedent? Clearly that still gives them an edge if they have such magical power.

your point being ?

Oh there is but I’d like to see you try to calculate the answer(without arbitrary slowdown) first yourself. I’m not going to waste my energy writing it out for a shitposter. So instead of a claim(As I’m unwilling right now to post how it is backed up)see it as a dare. I dare you that you won’t be able to do it. Maybe I’ll post it all later just not now.

>the Hebrews started writing the Bible somewhere in the 1500s BCE after their deliverance from Egypt

Wrong. They started writing it around 300 BCE, drawing on a oral tradition going back much earlier. The Israelites simply didn't exist before 1000 BCE, in Egypt or elsewhere. They're newcomers, really.

Yeah, it's almost like they thought they were God's chosen people, or something.

what about us?

You are wrong.

Wrong again

the Hebrews existed as far as Abraham who was born in 2018 BCE in the Sumerian city of Ur

Historians confirm that the Amurru was Syria invaded Mesopotamia around this time

Abraham probably spoke a variant of the Aramean-Amurru tongue which gradualy became the dialect known as Hebrew

Moses started writting the Torah in the desert on the way to Canaan

After their deliverance from the Exile after -539, the Sopherim (Jewish scribes) began recording Moses's writting, which is what you are refering to

hey what about me
where do my people come from

The last unknown son Mapu

nope, flood myths can be found in several African tribes as I have just explained to you several times

My personal theory is that native Americans are Canaanite explorers that migrated from Palestine

Remember, modern linguists classify Canaanites as Semites because it's the language they spoke, however this may have been because of Aramean influence (they also adopted their religion)

Therefore, we don't know what the original Canaanite language sounded like, so the Mesoamericans probably are the remnants of these Canaanites

Plus there are similarities in their customs, as both were known for their violent society, worship of agriculture gods, cannibalism, human sacrifice etc

Even if that were all true, that doesn't make Abraham an Israelite. If anything, it sounds like the Israelites were co-opting a Mesopotamian figure as their supposed ancestor, just like they co-opted Babylonian flood myths.

>flood myths can be found in several African tribes as I have just explained to you several times

You've gone from "all" to "several". Which is it? Do they all have a flood myth? Or is it just a few of them? Make up your mind.

cmon, you just made that up on the spot
i rather believe that God just said "and the left overs get to go here"
which makes way more sense than trying to create convoluted canonicity to try and justify the presence of people whose existance wasnt known when the religion was being made

better that way dont you think? or if you really want us to be descendants of noah wouldnt it be more reasonable if it was one of those that went to asia? since from asia you can go to america from the bering strait

I didn't say Abraham wasn't an Israelite, Israelites are descendants of Jacob who was Abraham's grandson

they later were reduced to slavery in Egypt

the Egyptians did not record their shameful humilation when God brought the plagues to them, that is why they invented the "hyksos" meme to try and cover it

It is also possible that the Canaanites that came to America came from Asia, yes

I do actually hold that the East Asians are also Canaanites

Thank you for correcting me

>french education

So then why are you bringing up Abraham as if that disproves my point about ths Israelites emerging circa 1000BCE if Abraham wasn't an Israelite?

Non sequitur.

>East Asians are also Canaanites
ah thank you for saying so, now i can leave this thread knowing full well i am not gonna loose anything important, from no on

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Because you were talking about the Hebrews

Oh, he's shitposting dude.

I never said "Hebrews", I used the correct historical term, Israelites.

Canaan had a son named Sin

I hold that the Sinites travelled to China and settled there

From Sin we get the term "Sino-" which is a prefix related to China

the Chinese themselves say that their folkloric ancestor is Father Sin

Plus the Sinites are mentionned just once in the Bible and never seen again, I guess it means that China was too far from the Hebrews for them to care

Then Israelites existed as far back as 1600 BCE

what now ?

OH IS HE, I COULDNT SEE THAT WITH MY BIG SARCASM GLASSES ON

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You're changing your mind. Are you just plucking numbers out the air?

Please insert a space before your question marks as a matter of intercultural courtesy.

I did not change my mind at any moment

Here is a timeline for you:

- (2370) the Deluge
- Nimrod builds the cities of Akkad, Kalneh, Uruk, Babylon and Nineveh and establishes his kingdom
- God confuses the languages of mankind
- People start to spread across the planet, they are separated into several groups
- Advanced civilizations sprout near river valleys: Sumerian, Egyptians and Harappan city-states
- At some point Upper and Lower Egypt are united as a single state
- a Semite named Sargon overthrows the powerful Sumerians and establishes his domination in the Near East and Akkadian language becomes the international language of the region
- as the Akkadian empire weakens, the Gutians of unknown origin overthrow Sargon's dynasty and rule Mesopotamia for some time, only to be overthrown in their turn by the Sumerians who establish the 3rd Dynasty of Ur
- Amurru tribes from Syria and Elamites from Iran settle into Mesopotamia and weaken the Sumerian control
- (2018) Birth of Abraham the Amurru in Ur
- Hammurabi seizes control over Mesopotamia and makes Babylon his capital
- (1943) Abraham makes a covenant with God, thus making his future descendants the Hebrews his chosen people then settles into Palestine
- Kassites overthrow Hammurabi's dynasty and take control of the Babylonian empire, while Egypt exerts dominance over Palestine and Syria
- (1750) the Hebrew Joseph becomes the second most powerful person in Egypt after the Pharaoh. A famine in Palestine forces the Hebrews to settle into Egypt, where they are then reduced to slavery
- (1513) Pharaoh lets the Hebrews go and they begin their exodus into the promised land
- Moses begins to write the Bible

Shan't be reading this.

Although, I can tell you straight off we have accouts of the Artahasis BEFORE your chosen flood date, so suck it.

>britbong asks a question
>I answer
>I am not interested

the absolute state of this board

>Nimrod builds the cities of Akkad, Kalneh, Uruk, Babylon and Nineveh and establishes his kingdom
This is just embarrrasing.

the datings of artahasis are wrong

>Genesis 10:8

>Cush became father to Nimʹrod. He was the first to become a mighty one on the earth. He became a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah. That is why there is a saying: “Just like Nimʹrod, a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah.” The beginning of his kingdom was Baʹbel, Eʹrech, Acʹcad, and Calʹneh, in the land of Shiʹnar. From that land he went into As·syrʹi·a and built Ninʹe·veh, Re·hoʹboth-Ir, Caʹlah, and Reʹsen, between Ninʹe·veh and Caʹlah: This is the great city.

Nah, they're not.

You want rigorous discussion, go to /his/.

oh so the noah story is just plagiarism... Got ya

Popular Science (November 1979, p. 81) reports that physicist Robert Gentry “believes that all of the dates determined by radioactive decay may be off—not only by a few years, but by orders of magnitude.” The article points out that his findings would lead to the conclusion that “man, instead of having walked the earth for 3.6 million years, may have been around for only a few thousand.”

>source: my ass
Okay then