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>Full disclaimer: I went through RTK once and it amounted next to nothing down the road.
And I didn't touch RTK, only used anki, TK + HJGP and now I can read.
RTK is old so people get recommended it, except anki exist now
Nobody would dare take that bet.. how many has she slaughtered?
The rate for people (and weebs) in general sticking with Japanese might be actually close to 0.1% or less.
I myself seldom watch anime, but some SS are so compelling that it forcibly urges me to check original works.
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>scat
遠慮しておきます。
So I successfully learned both alphabets doing 5 letters/day.
With revisions it took me around 1hr each day, the same time I would need to memorize 30 vocables, names or historic dates.
If i continue with Kanji at the same special needs school-esque pace, how long will it take, until I can read something like Harry Potter or Eragon?
They're not alphabets and if you treat kanji like that as well you'll never read anything.
You're garbage
やっぱケンチキの季節
2000 kanji to read at middle school level. Get to it.
This desu. Studying Kanji in isolation for too long before doing anything else will not help with anything either. Also studying just Kanji never worked for me at all. Studying Kanji in conjunction with vocabulary utilizing those Kanji was much better, especially if the vocabulary covers different readings of the Kanji.
Overall you should establish a regimen for getting Kanji + Vocabulary down that still leaves you plenty of time to practice actual reading and not assume to just study Kanji for a while and then be magically able to read.
You'll get to know more than 1700 of them next year and be able to read most of things looking up in your dictionary.
thank you buddy, my parents think the same
Stop being garbage then it's not hard
disregard the polish menace, he has issues
I'm easily the most motivation person in this thread
motivating
I need the booty
You corrected a mistake.
The fuck do you even mean? Increasing counts? I don't wan't to overwhelm myself, this stuff stacks up with other studies.
They said most anons give up after biting off more than they can chew.
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気のせいだろ
>wan't
Who the fuck is They
猫になりたい 言葉ははかない 消えないようにキズつけてあげるよ
>多分、親元を離れろって言ってるんじゃないのかな?
Did I read it correctly?
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as a rule of thumb, an hour a day of japanese study is pretty much the minimum you should invest if you want to get anywhere within your lifetime
Everybody here is going to be a contract magic worker as well.
That tends to happen but you can also adapt on the fly it's not like you're stuck going at a certain pace forever. I started more slowly but have been increasing my speed the further I get, because I feel I both have the capacity and somehow memorize new vocabulary faster than the initial stuff by now.
I probably do around 2-3 hours of Japanese in a given day and this is split between reading, listening, grammar resources and Kanji + vocab study. It sounds like a lot but it's broken up during the day and a huge chunk comes in the evening when I'll just sit down with some manga to try and translate.
I still expect to be going at that pace for at least another full year before switching it up considerably. In the end its all about establishing a regimen and then having the discipline to stick to it.
I also tried learning the language years ago when I was much worse organized and I failed miserably since I had no set daily goals. So I would be very careful about that.
>やる
>なる
>する
wtf japanese is too hard
In reality everything that occurs a lot is not hard to remember at all. It's the more uncommon things that will take forever to stick.
難しくなさすぎる
だといいですけど。。。
5 kanji a day, but 30 words?
That's a fairly decent pace - I've been at it for 3 years and if I had learned 5 kanji a day, I'd be past the 5000 kanji mark (you need around 3000 to be at native level)
Are you mining words with kanji you don't know, treating the "5 a day" as just a separate exercise? If so, I say you'll do fine.
Is it possible for an adverb to modify multiple verbs if context permits?
早く出血しろで死んじゃえ
it rarher sounds
>soon bleed then die.
それよりたのしく歌っておどろうよ!
八つ裂き
When I'm reading japanese with rikaikun is best to simply take notes apart and just string togheter later whatever the text is trying to say?
I just forget the first words of the sentence and is just harder to try to guess the entire sentence meaning if I try to read it normally.
Learn english first and graduate from 100 verbs
I just realized the japanese traded irregular inflection of verbs for irregular readings of words
>Anki went terrible today
he just omitted subjects of the sentences, "it", like Spanish often do it.
"ambitious"
Quite sure most people just want results :~)
but seriously though, how many people actually stick with it and become at least semi-fluent? 10% maybe?
I'm really not sure
血が足りない
20% (per Pareto) who reach proficiency seems like a good guess. And of those, yet another 20% who reach fluency.
But then you'd have to take out the entry-level weebs who just learn some konnichiwa and drop out, otherwise the figure is probably around 1%.
Also do people watching this trash count? youtube.com
Learn english before posting please
who?
meの事かな
Please stop spamming smiley faces unironically
You are doing fine though!
And speaking of which: *English :~)
I've no respect to give to this vulgar language
Have you ever been seen by anybody when posting in this thread?
>友達や家族は知ってるの?
No, not anyone that can be called human
Hey DJT I got a question regarding radicals.
Why do most people here ignore them and say they dont matter?
I was looking around in other threads and found that chinese guide where they say you absolutely have to learn radicals, why is that?
Is it different for chinese?
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Who said that?
I think you are calling more than 30 of people subhuman even in this thread alone...
>ネットの外ではそんなに紳士なの?
I refuse to talk about this subject.
Radicals are used to codify kanji in dictionaries. If you know the radicals, you know how to look up the kanji. Of course, with computers, this is no longer necessary. There's no reason to learn the radicals anymore. (You have software that can recognize drawn kanji, or you can just pick radicals from a list and it narrows it down...)
While it could certainly be useful for some kanji (sometimes similar concepts share a radical, or sometimes the radical hints at the sound of the kanji) it's more trouble than it's worth... But then, so is learning Japanese.
Why? What's so special about posting "please" in these threads?
If you actually knew real english you'd notice that invisible comma and understand that sentence by context alone.
Why do most people here ignore them
Because they are lazy.
>and say they dont matter?
Because they are dumb.
The only problem with Kangxi radicals is that they're outdated, so a lot of barely used radicals are included, a lot of new combinations have enough use cases to be considered new radicals and a lot of simplified kanji messed up with the original radicals, making strange things occur like 内全 deriving from 入, but being written as 人 instead.
All in all, if you want to learn how to write kanji, learning how to write the radicals first is a great help.
African American Vernacular is not real English, you niggeridoo.
>All in all, if you want to learn how to write kanji, learning how to write the radicals first is a great help.
>if you want to learn how to write Kanji
There it is, this handwriting meme again. Why won't this die?
Because he's more ambitious than you, enjoy staying in your muslim utopia.
There it is, the nihilistic German again. Why won't this Nietzschean filth disappear?
Radicals are useful in word play. Therefore they might make your consuming our media more fruitful.
あの時にもっとしっかりしてれば。。。
…ゲイにならなかった
ホモやめ
精液を肛内に出される事よりも気持ちのいい事はこの世には在るまい
what's the point of using koto?
風邪を引いた
いつも週末に病気になる(´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥｀)
俺が風邪をひいた何年前?
二三年か?
バカは風邪をひかないから
explain how do I use kara.
ダメダメゼッタイダメゼッタイ
explain how do I use koto and kara I see japs using it every day.
koto = thing, but that doesn't make sense.
kara = from, but that doesn't make sense.
what it doesn't make sense is to overuse it with every verb.
ワロタ
寝たいが鼻水があるすぎる
...
Instead of asking the trollpole, have you considered reading at least one (1) "introductory japanese grammar for dummies" style book? (Or, heavens forbid, The Guide?)
ホテルから空港までへ行きました
I went from the hotel to the airport.
I'm reading tae kim, but I still don't get why koto and kara are so overused.
I guess kara means from the beggining or from something to indicate a beggining, while koto make a generic To do to a verb so It becomes a noun.
Too bad that's not the から I used
気が早いぞ。Guideをちゃんと読んでしまいなさい。
カラボがは強くて黒い牛神です。
>overused.
I'm learning england and I still don't get why 'they' and 'think' are so overused. Fucken SHIT
wow, thanks for the help, kukojins.