Belarus was just given an offer they can't refuse from Russia: "we continue to supply you with cheap oil and gas but only if you agree to be annexed by Russia as a part of federation, Otherwise we make prices so high that you have no money to buy food anymore". The Belarusian dictator Alexandr Lukashenko pretended that he was shocked about that xD
May example of Belarus be a good hint for all those eastern-euro shitholes that take 90% of their gas and oil from Russia and even agree on enlarging supplies for the future.
Belarus is already mini-Russia in all but name anyways.
Carter Price
Aren't they the same race anyway. Why have 2 states.
Brody Garcia
Why is he upset? I thought Belarus was already effectively Russia.
Eli Jenkins
Russia massively subsidized gas for Belarus. We’re paying the market price and can get it from the Adriatic through reverse flow as well.
Juan Bailey
It completely changes Poland's geostrategic situation. We are basically unable to defend ourselves from Russia anymore, especially if they push few divisions to their territory that was called "Belarus" earlier. If Belarus becomes a part of Russian federation and Russia obtains full right of moving forces there, you can automatically say good bye to Ukraine and Baltic state. Then Poland automatically becomes a Russian vassal, and when Poland is fucked, whole region of CEE along with Baltic/Black Sea becomes Russian sphere of influence. And the disarmed Western Europe has a common border with entity of similar geopolitical potential to Soviet Union, and you know what happens next, don't you?
Nicholas Lee
>Aren't they the same race anyway.
Of course not. Why do you think it's called "White Russia"?
Daniel Nelson
>Stockholm: Construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline has begun in the economic zone of Sweden. This is reported by the Western media.
>As noted in the message, the pipes for the gas pipeline will be stored in the Swedish port of Karlshamn. The port administration additionally hired more than 110 employees to carry out the work. Also, according to Swedish journalists, work in the area will last until the summer of 2019.
*AHEM* FUCK GERMANS FUCK RUSSIANS FUCK SWEDES FUCK FINNS
Jeremiah Price
What happens next?
Ryder Baker
>Implying the Polish army couldn't hold the line against Russia
Cooper Wood
What would happen to Western Europe during Cold War if the USA's forces present there were 20x smaller, the USA wouldn't have even one completed armoured brigade in there, most of nukes were removed from there, and Europe itself was drown in chaos of France-tier martial law, refugee mess and other shit? It would be vassalized by Soviet Union, of course
Jaxon Barnes
> It would be vassalized by Soviet Union Like paying tribute or what?
Parker Roberts
>>Implying the Polish army couldn't hold the line against Russia
Are you really that dumb? All geopolitical strategies that give a shadow of chances for success in keeping Russian at bay in our situation are based on doctrine of using eastern european plain as a battleground, so it is basically impossible to win Russia without using Belarus' territory as a battlefield. It is game over for us, and we will be forced to change our policy by 180°
Lucas Edwards
The germans started a clandestine rearmament, and in 5 years they invade Russia and confiscate all of their food, causing millions of deaths by starvation.
Germans and French would set up an EU army in 3 days?
Jonathan Howard
>Germans and French would set up an EU army in 3 days?
European armies are mess, their battle readiness is less than 10% according to analysis of most of prominent American think tanks.
Ayden Hall
You could pull back to the Vistula. Or make a preemptive strike on Belarus, based on defending the Polish minority there.
Camden Johnson
Nope. If Russia takes Belarus, it is geopolitical game over for us.
Xavier Bennett
Annexation of Russia by Belarus when?
Jordan Collins
Current Russia is much weaker than the old USSR. It has shittier economy than fucking Italy
Dylan Baker
American army isn't better. They are out of shape and they focused so much on counter insurancy in the past 30 years, that they could not fight a battle against a conventional enemy.
Joshua Sanchez
no one needs all thse french proxy countries in eastern europe. let russia have them.
Samuel Russell
Then stop them from taking it, baka-poland.
Zachary Price
All these proxy countries belong to you. You beat them in the WWI
Liam Turner
does italy has space? thought before write my man
John Davis
Does Italy has T-I-G-E-R-S? Thought so...
Jayden Ross
>Then stop them from taking it, baka-poland.
Even NATO - if united - wouldn't be able to defend Poland from Russia if Belarus was taken by it. Poland automatically stops being independent from Russia if it happens, you can't cheat laws of geopolitical gravity
Angel Foster
>The germans started a clandestine rearmament, and in 5 years they invade Russia What, again? When will they learn?
Nolan Collins
Because they're whiter than you?
Andrew Bennett
wow sounds great so what's the big deal
Brayden Gray
russia will retake the baltics, belarus and the ukraine in our lifetime no doubt about it. poles better fasten their seatbelts.
Jose Walker
I am pretty sure that Russians needs all these shitholes with zero valuables and non-existent industry only because they want to magically stop on the German border and resign from vassalizing a country being an economical powerhouse of Eurasia, which could save them from being a Chinese vassal. They also pushed trillion dollars into modernizing their army since 2007 because they want to use this killing maching to conquer Estonia or Poland xD
Aiden Robinson
ITT: Armchair generals
Colton Gutierrez
germany is too important to be conquered by russia, the us would not let go of one of their most important colonies. poland isn't worth it yet on the other hand.
Ian Bailey
>Belarus was just given an offer they can't refuse from Russia: "we continue to supply you with cheap oil and gas but only if you agree to be annexed by Russia as a part of federation
Where does it say this?
Cooper Martinez
If Germany was so important for the USA, then USA wouldn't let Russia take Poland in first place because if Poland is taken, your chances to defend yourself from Russian invasion are practically non-existent geopolitically xD
Ian Lee
What for?
Lucas Ramirez
Chechnya vatnik, couple more years and jewtin pocket money to keep Chechyan quiet runs out
cant wait till they start setting off bombs in moscow's metro. :)
You think Russia is any better with their repainted 1980s equipment and having to depend on Europe and Israel for electronics?
Matthew Gray
I think they will go back to normal once Trump is gone. He has zero support in the establishment and won't achieve anything substantial even if he gets reelected. And after him they will go back to business.
Julian Murphy
I don't know, to be honest. Such information is classified by Russians. But i see that Russians are making snap exercises monthly and they use these these exercises such numbers of soldiers and equipment that are bigger than biggest armies of Western Europe
Jason Jones
>Belarus was just given an offer they can't refuse from Russia: "we continue to supply you with cheap oil and gas but only if you agree to be annexed by Russia as a part of federation That's not what happened, lying poleshit. He just wants to eat his pierogi and sit comfortably on a dick. But you can't have both now and he chimps out. >May example of Belarus be a good hint for all those eastern-euro shitholes that take 90% of their gas and oil from Russia and even agree on enlarging supplies for the future. Nobody cares about them. There are much bigger consumers. Those eastern euro shitholes are just unreliable transit countries, which are justifiably now getting bypassed. And now you whine even more because you won't be getting any transit fees anymore. And what's MORE funny, you can have all those delusions about muh gas from Norway or USA. But you will be getting same old Russian gas but more expensive through Germany.
Anthony Taylor
Their armed forces are nothing too menacing in this day and age. A load of industry and technical know-how was lost in the 90s and not regained since. Even a few bombing raids in Syria were stretching their logistics to the limit.
Caleb Gonzalez
>I think they will go back to normal once Trump is gone.
Trump as a phenomenon will be never gone. If he stops being US president, the next US president will have very similar views to Trump anyway. It is a change in strategy of the USA. They realized that they have no money for maintaining their empire and situation can't continue unchanged anymore.
Parker Jackson
>. And now you whine even more because you won't be getting any transit fees anymore.
Polish traitorous politicians agreed on gas deal with Russia while resigning from transit fees already in 2001 so we didn't take any money from Russia anyway. But Ukraine on the other hand ... well...
Camden Sanchez
>belsat.eu/en/news/i-do-not-call-russia-brotherly-state-anymore-lukashenka/ He even said it himself. >“I do not say ‘brotherly nation’, because I was informed of Russia’s not being receptive to it. The say new people have come [to power] for whom this concept is unacceptable. Well, let’s be partners,” the presidential press service quotes Lukashenka. It's the Russians who are fed up with "brothers" like Ukraine, who were subsidized for years only to backstab Russia. Now Russia only wants to deal with everyone as partners.
Joseph Hughes
>They realized that they have no money for maintaining their empire and situation can't continue unchanged anymore. Trump might realize this but from the way it seems like the entire US state apparatus, the entire political-military establishment and the entire media apparatus are constantly trying to destroy him it seems they don't share this sentiment. See the outrage over him leaving Syria. The imperialist did not like it at all.
Carter Perry
>Trump might realize this but from the way it seems like the entire US state apparatus, the entire political-military establishment and the entire media apparatus are constantly trying to destroy him it seems they don't share this sentiment. See the outrage over him leaving Syria. The imperialist did not like it at all.
Media in the USA are very flexible just like politicians. It is just enough to establish Bernie Sanders as US president claiming that USA has no interest in staying in the Middle East and Europe and media are going to love him for this. You are unaware how politics in the USA is made. Presidents are only actors, and things are being decided in bigger circles.
Liam Watson
>Media in the USA are very flexible just like politicians. not really, they are imperialist and in support of eternal wars as they are owned by the industrial-military complex. every president must deliver a war and the wars must go on forever to keep the empire going. it is essentially the old roman model.
Carter Reyes
Media don't rule the USA so this discussion is pointless. Congress and White House do.
Jace Torres
We will save money on army at least because army won't be needed anymore if we will have a border with Russia from north and east at the same time. We should cut all these idiotic weapon deals with the US, we already lost around 15 bln dollar on it.
Oliver Wright
why would you not need an army if you share a border with russia? do you support an annexation?
Eli Thomas
Because Poland is placed on a plain. It is impossible to defend it without moving the warfare on territory of Belarus, and since the territory of Belarus is Russia, we are undefendable. Sure, we could spend money on army but it would be waste of money because it can't defend Poland according to all geostrategic options
Ayden Bell
just give guns to the people with polish ancestors living in western belarus
Jordan Williams
Lmao, spot an idiot
Sebastian Anderson
Do you really scared about it polish bro? Russia is paper tiger. We didnt even teach churkas and turks a lesson. You are dulusional, russia isnt threat, more like clown with rusted guns
Elijah Perez
If you had a basic knowledge about geostrategy of Poland, you would understand that if Belarus becomes a part of Russia, it is game over for us. We can pretty much ourselves change name to Polish republic of Russian Federation if it happens xD. Sure, it is nothing good for us, because we will be forced to let Russia build its military bases on our territory and we will become a main gravitiational point of Russian imperialistic policy against the West.
Elijah Johnson
Warsaw oblast.
Joshua Wood
>If you had a basic knowledge about geostrategy >xD
t. armchair master of geopolitics. You need to go back to wykop.
