You're a cunt

that pic related is schizophrenia distilled

You're an asshole
Yeah, I like Marx

This. Communism is for kikes.

Isn't capitalism also for kikes?

yeah I do

>communists love Jews so much they helped the Arabs try to wipe them out

RARE
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posts that could come only from the mind of a deranged person.

Leaf
Yes. He tried to warn us.

Wow its psychodelic wikipedia.

We don’t have capitalism
Stalin and Khrushchev were KNOWN for their support of the Jew and the foundation of Israel. 60% of all Israeli founders were commies

I like this guy more

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>We don’t have capitalism
NOT
REAL
CAPITALISM

>>NOT
>REAL
>CAPITALISM
I can feel it though comrade. We're truly living in a workers' paradise. I hope that other poster gets sent to a reeducation camp soon.

UK
NO

>We don’t have capitalism

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>Stalin and Khrushchev were KNOWN for their support of the Jew and the foundation of Israel.
Stalin thought that they could be turned into a Soviet ally in the ME. Kruschev loved them so much that he backed the Egyptians against them in the Suze Crisis lmao. You’re also conventiently forgetting that Brezhnev and co were intensely hostile to Israel, and that Arab and Kurdish communists were anti-Israel from the beginning.

>We don’t have capitalism
imagine being this retarded
lmao

Absolutely based schizo

Yes I do

discord.gg/k6HaBW
Join gommie server

No but I'm looking forward to his anime

Not a fan

No.
He is a harmful pseudo scientist.

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Yes I like Marx.

Clueless Boomers though know jack shit about him.

They think he is to blame for modern feminism and other SJW crap.

The "Antifa" crowd also seem to be subject to this delusion.

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I'm not 19.

we don't though, if by "capitalism" you mean laissez-faire

Another gommie Slovak? Wtf

Communism is a failed ideology because the working class never liberated itself, enslavement was simply changed from the capital elite to the university.

There is a reason marxism appeals so much to college kids. At least the capital elite do contain some of alpha male traits required to lead a country, marxists are mainly beta males who lack every quality to lead a nation.

He was unironically redpilled on jewe unlike kikepitalists

no, by capitalism I mean capitalism.

No, but I haven't studied the guy either. All I know is people start getting killed when communism or interpretations of it get established in countries.

Marx was a jew, you retard. Most socialists in history were jewish, the bolsheviks were jewish.

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Very much so

Hes just some guy whos weird ideas got taken to far. Fuck imagine if you think up a weird ideology as a lifelong neet and then it accually gets applied but by fucking russians and Chinese

>Most socialists in history were jewish
"no"

then we can't have capitalism because capitalism ,unlike communism, isn't a well-defined socioeconomical system, but a set of laws that describe the behaviour of free markets when they satisfy a set of conditions
we don't have free markets, and even if they were they wouldn't probably satisfy those conditions, which are very theoretical

Right because people weren’t being killed in Russia before communism came along.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I

Yes.

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capitalism isn't "free market", and socialism isn't "when there's a planned economy" it's the existence of private property rights, just before you say yet another retarded thing, it's in relation to the means of production.
you can have a planned economy in capitalism and you can have free market in socialism.

>you can have free market in socialism
No. Just because you can say anything doesn't mean it applies in objective reality.

Doesn't refute my point

>capitalism isn't "free market"
yeah it isn't
>it's the existence of private property rights
that's a condition for it, not the meaning of capitalism
>it's in relation to the means of production.
analyzing everything by its relation to the means of production is a Marxist method (historic materialism but whatever)

>you can have a planned economy in capitalism and you can have free market in socialism.
things in real life work by degrees and not black and white, but still you're a fucking idiot for saying this

next time try educating yourself by other sources of information than wikipedia

imagine being this retarded.
have you legitimately never heard of Yugoslavia?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia

jesus christ you're stupid.
don't talk to me anymore, you dimwit.

>that's a condition for it, not the meaning of capitalism
no, it's literally the meaning of capitalism.
>analyzing everything by its relation to the means of production is a Marxist method (historic materialism but whatever)
no, it's the literal definition of capitalism.
>things in real life work by degrees and not black and white, but still you're a fucking idiot for saying this
talk to me again when you have an argument.

You mean the country with 90% rural production which ended up with all it's industries collapsing in the process and the worst unemployment crisis in Europe?
You fucking retarded moron, you don't even know about your own arguments. What kind of chimp thinks you can have collective ownership in an extremely complex and advanced market like we have today?

>this strawman
stay retarded, you dimwit.

now kiss

>describing literal history is a strawman
Just fucking Christ, kill yourself.

The point is that violence is endemic to capitalist society. It’s not as if everybody is living peacefully without coercion until le ebil gommies show up. Mark Twain said the same thing about the French Revolution, but the same reasoning applies to Russia and communism.

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it's a strawman because we were talking about the existence of the ideology, not whether or not it worked in the one place where it was tried.
you're a dimwit, kill yourself.

>
>
Historical materialism as a historiographic method was born with Marx, and with it, the fixation with analyzing socioeconomical relationships between people with their relations to the means of production.
The notion of capitalism preceded Marx, it was rudimentarily born set with the laws observed by classical economicists like Adam Smith or Ricardo, and has jack to do with the means of production. It's a set of laws and rules that describe the behaviour of goods in a market when there aren't external forces and a set of ideal conditions like symettrical barriers of entry, competitivity, etc... which in the real world are never present completely.

At this point it's so damn obvious that your definition of capitalism is the first two lines of the Wikipedia page that it's not worth going on.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK IT DOESN'T EXIST
ANYTHING, LITERALLY ANYTHING, CAN EXIST IN THEORY, YOU BRAIN DEAD SPERG

>At this point it's so damn obvious that your definition of capitalism is the first two lines of the Wikipedia page that it's not worth going on.
no, it's the literal definition of capitalism.
stop being retarded.

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oh my god look at this mongoloid having a retarded fit.
lmao

you can't say it doesn't work, it would literally be just your retarded opinion and nothing else.
market socialism exists, whether you like it or not, you're gonna have to deal with it.

>capitalism
>a political system
Are you this fucking ignorant that you don't realize how utterly retarded that "definition" is?

>dictionaries are wrong
alright, I'm done with you, you're literally too retarded to argue with.

Don't you think violence is endemic to humans in general though? I didn't say that everyone was living peaceful until the ebil gommies :DD. My problem with the ideology is that the bodycount of people living or excisting close to communist countries seems to be higher and more frequent than in capitalist or other societies. This is not necessarily even limited to just violence or war, but includes famines, lack of medical or other resources etc. Granted humans race in general has always suffered thru those types of problems until modern western tech.

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yeah i like his ideas

>dictionares written by linguists are the ultimate authority on economics
You're a bona fide moron, no fucking wonder you're a commie.

>"literally a non argument, only insults, kill yourself, you are so retarded, etc."

>Don't you think violence is endemic to humans in general though?
Absolutely, which is why what really matters is how violence is mobilized and whether or not it produces a more free and just society. Despite the flaws of the Soviet and other communist regimes, I’d argue that they were more just and even in some ways more free than what usually came before.
>My problem with the ideology is that the bodycount of people living or excisting close to communist countries seems to be higher and more frequent than in capitalist or other societies. This is not necessarily even limited to just violence or war, but includes famines, lack of medical or other resources etc.
If you want to use that metric then capitalism has a MUCH higher body count. 3 million children starve every year because le glorious free market fails to feed them (despite food production exceeding the minimum necessary to feed everybody). There’s also the various famines that rocked European colonies (Bengal Famine, Great Indian Famine, Irish Potato Famine) etc. You should also keep in mind that the 100 million figure comes from the Black Book of Communism, which has since been denounced by several of its authors who admit they were exaggerating as much as possible. For example actual archival evidence from historians like J Arch Getty shows that less than a million people were killed in Stalin’s gulags, and that most of them were common criminals, not political prisoners.

Wow! Way to win an argument Diego.

I am deadly certain this argie poster and the canadian and brazilian sociaboos are 19 year olds maximum.

Marx was usually right.

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>this argie poster and the canadian
They always seem to be in the same threads together. Weird the leaf isn't here this time.

I despise communism, so not really. He did have legitimate criticisms of capitalism though.

I don't know how many other socialist canadians are itt but im a 27 year old engineer

I’d say the same thing except I’m Red Square Gang.

Are you a marxist?

>this dumb and angry mexican
stay obsessed, retard.

Have you read Marx yet, or nah?

In a sense yes.

Interesting points, thanks for remaining civil

I'm not a fan of communism but I'd like to think that he meant well while he was creating it.

Tbh if you can read the 1844 Manuscripts and still support capitalism you hate humanity.

Holy shit that beard

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>supporting capitalism
It's not an ideology. There's nothing to support, capitalism simply is and it's required by any form of civilization.

communism predates Marx.

yeah just reading "wage labour and capital" should be enough to realize capitalism is shit.

Answer the question, Diego, have you read him yet?

are you 12 or something?

whoops, I thought his manifesto updated a decent portion of it

>tfw burger education

survival of the fitest, it's purely how nature works

Marx was a good-but-flawed intellectual with an uncanny ability to attract both idealistic idiots and cynical but brilliant politicians who used socialist ideology as a path to power.
The socialist revolutions were not just caused by activists and intellectuals though, they were only possible because the existing empires were in deep crisis and would have collapsed in one way or another.

there are different ideologies, his work is essentially a critique of capitalism more than a foundation for socialism.

>survival of the fitest
That's the opposite of organized civilization.

It always awes me when anarcho-caps proclaim rugged individualism while almost every minute of their day is made possible by government subsidies and the nanny state.

>99288464
>There's nothing to support, capitalism simply is and it's required by any form of civilization.
I wasn’t aware that civilization only began 300-400 years ago.

just don't

>flag
>no, communism is inherently broken and one big pipe dream that fundamentally (without gulags even) is seen as a nightmare for most

I do like industry though.

>communism

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