Let's get some interesting discussion going. Since your countries are obviously great buddies,
>Why is Japan shit?
>Why is Korea shit?
Korea v. Japan
Hudson Gonzalez
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Carter Bell
Ancient times harf south part of Korea was subjected to Japan.
Its even mentioned in ancient Chinese records.
Look how American ,aoustralian and Chinese themselfs is saying anout ancient east Asia
The textbook produced by Oxford University Press, publishing textbooks in about 50 countries around the world, states that "Japan's power in the 5th century dominated the south of the Korean Peninsula." The American textbook "World Culture" published by Prentice Hall "is" around the year CE, (until Japan), until a group of several clans unified to unify the majority of Japan and govern the southern region of Korea "The textbooks in Canada and Australia also have similar descriptions [28].
In the online encyclopedia of Columbia University and the Library of Congress, "Old Korea was a country built by Chinese and Minoko in the northern part of the Korean Peninsula in the 12th century BC. At that time, the southern part of the Korean Peninsula was dominated by the Japanese Yamato administration It was written "It was under" [29].
In the People's Republic of China, the textbook "World History Lecture" published by Shanghai People's Publishing Company states that "Shilla has recovered the Nenna district that was the basis of the Japanese for a long time in the southern peninsula from the early days" There [30]. In the Japanese history column of the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China, "Although the beginning of the 5th century, the power expanded to the southern part of the Korean Peninsula during the period when Yamato became prosperous", it was protested from the Korean government , Deleted all parts of Japanese history before the Second World War from the Japan Introduction column [31].
Jose Perry
Japan is shit because pretentious people, fucked up teeth, everything is expensive af, racists shops and netouyos like Korea is shit because air pollution, swindlers, frequent rip offs
Camden Jackson
dubs checkem
Christian Thomas
cringe
all chinkoids must die
Aiden Edwards
Read the resurch of the Harvard university about ancient east Asia
It says also japan controlled southern part of the korea
Hudson Price
its all so tiresome
Aiden Foster
Now look the ancient Chinese record
I did google translater for you becouse gook and others can’t read ancient chinese record
而 倭以 耒卯年 japan in the sinmyo year
來 come
渡海 across the sea
破 defeated
百殘 Baekje
新羅 sills
以為 made them
臣民 subjects
Leo Williams
What is the European equivalent? Or does this level of shit flinging exist anywhere else?
Levi Hughes
It's all fascinated but how does it explain why korea is shit?
Jaxon Garcia
Jonathan Hernandez
I'm new to int, but I think there's just one Japanese ultranationalist/weeabo shitposter lol
Jonathan Hall
Read pic And here
Book of the Song Dynasty China
詔除武使
持節都督
倭
新羅
任那
加羅
秦韓
慕韓
六國諸軍事
安東大將軍
倭王
Eliminate military ambassador
Governor
Japanese
Silla
Ren
Garro
Qin Han
Mu Han
Military of the six countries
General Anton
Japanese king
en.m.wikipedia.org
k_of_Song
Benjamin Bailey
Portraits of Periodical Offering
斯羅國,
本
東 夷
辰韓
之小國也。
魏
時
曰
新羅,
宋
時
曰
斯羅,
其實一也。
或属 韓
或属 倭
國王
不能
自通使聘。
普通二年,
其王
名
募秦,
始使隨
百濟
奉表献方物。
其國有城,
號曰健年。
其
俗與
高麗
相類。
無文字,
刻木為範,
言語待百濟
而後通焉
Sloan,
this
East barbarian
Chen Han
The small country also.
Wei
Time
曰
Silla,
Song
Time
曰
Sloan,
In fact, one.
Subject
Or Han
Or Japan
king
Can not
Self-commissioned.
Ordinary two years,
King
name
Recruit Qin,
Start with
Baekje
Form
Dedication.
Its state-owned city,
number
Jian Jiannian.
its
Vulgar
Koryo
Similar.
No text,
Carved for the wood,
Speech to be Baekje
Then wanted
David Howard
Japan is shit because they copy everything from Korea.
>They took taekwondo and called it karate
>They took gimbap and called it sushi
>They took manhwa and called it manga
>Even steal korean cherry trees and call it hanami
Colton Taylor
Ok
I got it. Korea has interesting story ethnogenesis. But it doesn't mean any shittness.
Alexander Johnson
About Kofun tombs.
Kofun is special tombs of the king or elite person of ancient Japanese.
Only Japanese was makeing those style if sfecifuc Kofun architecture in the world.
biggest and oldest Kofun is founded in japan offcouse.and in South part of korea is also founded japanese Kofun but newer and smoller.
Other race didn’t make Kofun.
Also largest Kofun is most wider tombs of the whole world Bytheway.
Also Japanese specific green stone jewelry is founded in Kofun in korea.
korean kofuns are definitely a proof of japanese influence on south korea
this is just meaning southern part of korea was under the rule of ancient Japanese.
Ryder Jackson
I'm German and in Korea for a visit, so I can only speak from an outsider point of view
>Why is Korea shit?
I think Japanese believe Korea developed so fast because of their "help" and are not grateful for it, and maybe look down on them?
I really don't know what the current mindset is.
I'm from Germany and I know very well about the idea of the master race, maybe Japanese still have this mindset as they weren't so much scolded as we was.
Or it's their Island-thinking (Galapagos-syndrome) I believe they have and really don't care about anyone else but themselves, but then at least give a little shit about your closest neighbor.
>Why is Japan shit?
Well they occupied the country and the never ending comfort woman thing, even tho japan apologized for it, it wasn't sincere Koreans say.
So I think its up to the young people and the following generations to forgive and forget and be grateful you have each other (imagine they would join forces).
But also media can contribute, I saw some Korean shows invite Japanese guests, some K-pop icons have a Japanese version of their songs...I just hope Japan would do something similar
Guess I'm just a little sad this can't be resolved because they're so alike and I love both of them T^T
Evan Gray
Troll right?
Asher Lee
Korea is shithole because it is filled with gook insectoids like .
Jason Sullivan
please get out of my glorious country
Jacob Richardson
Are you Costa Rica flag who claimed to be German tourist?
Angel Hill
In Western Europe? Historically England and France. It's probably the oldest rivalry in the world.
Nowadays it's more like UK v Germany, though.
Jack Miller
Young generation of korean is most hateful to Japanese,
And some of old one was knowing truth directly so they are not too hateful to japan.
You are talking just imagination or wish.
Reality is those
95-year-old manBeing beaten up and killed by 38years old korean man.
Due to saying "Japanese rule of age was good".
In the Korean net is saying
"Naturally dying"
"Justice of justice"
2013/9/13 18: 26
According to the Korean newspaper "World Daily," the incident occurred in May 2013. The Jongmyo Citizen Park in Seoul has become the site.
In Korea, a 95 - year - old Korean man made a statement saying "affirm" the Japanese occupation era, an incident occurred in which he was beaten and died after buying the anger of the man who was present.
A man says that he is a crime of "patriotism", advocacy voice rises also from Korean net users and others. Surprises are spreading over too terrible incidents.
Hwang, a "patriot", was furious at Mr. Park's remarks. When He kicked Park, He took the staff, leaned to anger and beat up his head. Park suffered serious injuries to the skull and the brain, and died after receiving treatment. Huang, arrested for injury and death, claimed that he was "drunk and was in a state of deep embarrassment," but he received a sentence of five years imprisonment on September 10.
Surprisingly, there are a lot of advocacy advocates for this defendant in Korea. Although it is somewhat sympathetic that "the degree of patriotism has passed due to the momentum of alcohol" from the above-mentioned World Daily Report, furthermore on the Internet, Huang was referred to as "patriotic youth"
"Jijiya is a criminal at the time of praising the Japanese emperor in the first place, it is natural that he is killed."
"Penalty for imprisonment? Is it a medal rather than a medley?"
"Judgment of justice!"
"The judge is a salesman!"
There are many comments on articles that justify the murder.
Dylan Adams
this triggers koreans
youtu.be
Carson Rodriguez
lol
James Robinson
And here young korean is most hateful to japan
Article
Should we let korean student to call Japanese monkey?
koreaobserver.com
Jose Brown
>I'm from Germany and I know very well about the idea of the master race, maybe Japanese still have this mindset as they weren't so much scolded as we was.
Or it's their Island-thinking (Galapagos-syndrome) I believe they have and really don't care about anyone else but themselves, but then at least give a little shit about your closest neighbor.
Many Koreans are racists while most Japanese are not. Koreans unironically think they are master race of Asia. President Moon of South Korea even said that Korean race is superior race in Pyongyang. I cannot find any politician who claim themselves to be superior race other than Nazis and North Koreans.
Japanese are changed to most peaceful people in Asia since GHQ rule. Koreans always say they have to invade Japan and make Japanese girls comfort women for Korean men but Japanese people don't want the war with Korea. Japan just wants keep peace in their islands.
Chase King
costa rica? bist du behindert?
leaving soon Kim, calm your tits
dude, I love you but, do those tombs proof that Koreans are frauds?
Chinese took the noodles from Italians and made it their own.
Japanese took Ramen noodles and made it something else.
Nobody gives a shit
Look, why don't you both shake hands and appreciate each other as leaders in technology and culture and go into the future together, as friends, as brothers?
yes that really makes me sad, I can understand the young people are filled with anger, but that is the past and they should focus on other problems they face now.
When will they look forward then...ugh I don't know what to say
Anthony Watson
Landon Ross
lol, so when the ruling class in japan was koreans they built those tombs, and now the japs are claiming it as their own.
Julian Gray
Read Chinese ancient record
what are you rambling on gook?
it's pretty much the scholarly consensus outside korea that baekje and silla were subjugated by yamato as always.
japanese, chinese and western historians all agree while only gooks fall back on fantasies. seriously what level of mental gymnastics make it possible for you gooks to fall for the fantasy when
korea's been japan's vassal from the get go, and your obsession with japan and imperial family comes from this miserable history.
Anthony Long
#
And here young korean is most hateful to japan
Article
Should we let korean student to call Japanese monkey?
koreaobserver.com
Gabriel Young
Thomas Thompson
I understand why Germans murdered disabled people.
James Walker
Connor Evans
whatever bro, we both know japan is afraid to do a proper investigation of those tombs, because they are afraid of what they'll find.
Logan Hill
>responding to netoyuo post
that's exactly what they want you biscuit
Brandon Lee
literally im jealous of korea to not having mentally ill right wing like him. they are by far more mentally ill than every trump supporter in US. i know koreans are overly nationalistic but i cant find single that are like our right wingers on ilbe.com...
David Reyes
Netouyos are better than average Korean. Koreans are ultra racists like whites.
Evan Russell
It’s personal imperial tomb too.
Then go to Vatican and British royal family and investigate them everything as well.
And that saying never change that ancient Chinese record and result of the whole worlds historians
Brandon Lee
This, France and the UK are allies and very intertwined now.
London is the 4th or 6th biggest French city (in terms of population)
Of course the banter is still good
Gabriel Bell
>Using Nida from 5ch as a banter to Japanese
Can't Gook even create a banter?
Jason Clark
Yes becouse normal korean high school students is like those and it’s justified by society
young korean is most hateful to japan
Article
Should we let korean student to call Japanese monkey?
koreaobserver.com
Aaron Price
back to ilbe 베츙쿤
Easton Perez
you have no idea about netouyos then.
Hunter Hill
The Bristish royal family doesn't have to worry about having a Korean origin discovered
Isaac Evans
I am curious
What Does North Korea think of japan ?
Ethan Wood
>"Jap monkeys should know true history~"
Robert Price
Ancient Chinese record is only primary evidence of study of ancient east asisn study.
And it says korean was subjected to japan This is the same level of fucktarded reasoning that leads people to say that the French conquered England because William I came from Normandy, or that the French founded Germany because Charlemagne was a Frank.
The funny thing is that French don't believe such nonsense, because they have a real history in which they can take pride. Just as with the "Koreans created Japan" story, actually, I've only heard it from Koreans, far-left Japanese (i.e., Zainichi Koreans using Japanese names), and the occasional German. These sorts of "theories" are deliberate and blatant misunderstandings of history, often mere fabrications, made up out of envy and spite, to insult superior nations out of a sense of inferiority.
what are you rambling on gook?
it's pretty much the scholarly consensus outside korea that baekje and silla were subjugated by yamato as always.
japanese, chinese and western historians all agree while only gooks fall back on fantasies. seriously what level of mental gymnastics make it possible for you gooks to fall for the fantasy when even royal families of baekje and silla were taken as hostages by yamato and the story is recorded not only on japanese chronicles but your own primary history record, samguk sagi? korea's been japan's vassal from the get go, and your obsession with japan and imperial family comes from this miserable history.
Carter Wood
t. insect
Still better than average Korean.
Logan Nelson
Same with bottom
Isaiah Nelson
>"Koreans are beautiful people but Japs are ugly~"
Ryan Williams
英語をちゃんと勉強しろよ
コピペをやめなさい
Jason Evans
>"Japs must apologize to comfort women~"
Andrew Thompson
William Rivera
It's all so tiresome. I mean, really. What am I doing in here instead of having a dinner with my beloved family? That' it. I'm out of this autist riddled international board that has nothing to do with my life.
Nolan Allen
How much have we compensated Korea, and why does Korea insist that the Japanese never apologised nor compensated for their actions, even to this day?
The only reason? Money.
Korea have never stopped asking for compensation, even until now.
ejkr.hatenablog.com
In 1965, Japan and Korea signed the Japan-Korea Basic Treaty, Japan was granted $ 300 million (about 108 billion yen) for free, 200 million dollars (about 72 billion yen) for a fee, 300 million dollars for private loans , The total amount of 800 million dollars [currently converted 4,500 billion yen] was paid.
Japan's private assets in Korea amount to 5.3 billion dollars (1.98 trillion yen, about 15 trillion yen now converted)
Infrastructure improvement introduced in Korea by Japan 【60 trillion yen】
Total 79.5 trillion yen
(Korea's national budget at that time was 1.97 trillion yen)
First of all, we practically handed them $300 million, paid them $200 million as recompense for a fee, and another $300 million for a private loan in the 1965 Japan-Korea Basic Treaty. This comes to a less-than-modest $800 million.
This is more than twice the Korean national budget at the time.
Since these values are from around 1965, I will convert the value considering modern inflation. Also, please consider that $300 million of the $800 million was simply handed over.
Thomas Jackson
What this jap is implying is a Hypothesis called 임나 일본부설(任那日本府) which was made up at early 20th by Japs to justify nip's Colonization of Korean peninsula.
Basically it's all about Jap and Koreans were the same people back then and why the southern part of Korean peninsula belongs to japan.
As it was poorly made and the evidences were also poor so this Hypothesis is never considered as legit shit in modern days.
But seeing this dude bringing this outdated shit makes me pity him.
It nust feel hard to admit the fact your ancestors were nothing but a bunch of dirt eating pirates but please nip stay cool man.
Joseph Richardson
To know the truth and wake up from the korean matrix.
Truth is ourside.
Take truth or die in korea which is complitely fucked up in economy and no any job and becoming under the noth Korea with China by president moon who is huge pro noth Korea.
Wake up from korean matrix.
Camden Walker
>> poorly made and the evidences
Read
Ancient Chinese record is only primary evidence of study of ancient east asisn study.
And it says korean was subjected to japan (You) #
This is the same level of fucktarded reasoning that leads people to say that the French conquered England because William I came from Normandy, or that the French founded Germany because Charlemagne was a Frank.
The funny thing is that French don't believe such nonsense, because they have a real history in which they can take pride. Just as with the "Koreans created Japan" story, actually, I've only heard it from Koreans, far-left Japanese (i.e., Zainichi Koreans using Japanese names), and the occasional German. These sorts of "theories" are deliberate and blatant misunderstandings of history, often mere fabrications, made up out of envy and spite, to insult superior nations out of a sense of inferiority.
what are you rambling on gook?
it's pretty much the scholarly consensus outside korea that baekje and silla were subjugated by yamato as always.
japanese, chinese and western historians all agree while only gooks fall back on fantasies. seriously what level of mental gymnastics make it possible for you gooks to fall for the fantasy when even royal families of baekje and silla were taken as hostages by yamato and the story is recorded not only on japanese chronicles but your own primary history record, samguk sagi? korea's been japan's vassal from the get go, and your obsession with japan and imperial family comes from this miserable history.
Ayden Miller
Austin Rodriguez
First of all, we practically handed them $300 million, paid them $200 million as recompense for a fee, and another $300 million for a private loan in the 1965 Japan-Korea Basic Treaty. This comes to a less-than-modest $800 million.
This is more than twice the Korean national budget at the time.
Since these values are from around 1965, I will convert the value considering modern inflation. Also, please consider that $300 million of the $800 million was simply handed over.
· (Conversion to yen) $300 million × 360 yen (then $1 = 360 yen) = $108 billion
· (Price conversion) 108 billion yen × 10 (the initial salary of the university graduate at that time is about 20,000 yen) = 1,080 billion yen
Suppose we divide this as a total of 900,000 people who compensate for 700,000 compulsory entrainment workers, and 200,000 comfort women as claimed by Korea (there were few cases, such as compulsory entourage, veteran comfort women etc.).
· (Converted victims of compulsory victims) 1,080 billion yen / 900,000 people / 1,200,000 yen / person.
Aaron Edwards
It's opposite.
South Korea is afraid of investigation of these tombs in Korea so blocks Japan from investigation.
Brandon Scott
don't line our flag with dirty gook flag pls
Joseph Robinson
Japan has abandoned the assets left in the pre-war Korea. This is an act that is fully applicable as post-war reparation, as the precedent that Indian individuals were returned to India when it became independent from Great Britain. In the survey by the General HQ Private Bureau of Management, it was $5.3 billion, excluding military assets. (Ministry of Finance Ministry of Finance History "Showa Finance History Fromthe End of the War to Peace" Toyo Keizai Inc.)
In other words, Japan has put forth a huge amount of compensation for their actions involving South Korea, with $5.3 billion in pre-war assets and $800 million in war reparations,
and in the Japan-Korea Basic Treaty, the following words are written. "Confirm that post-war processing will be complete and ultimately resolved" (Article 2, Article 1 of the Agreement)
However, after the conclusion of the treaty, South Korea utilized the money from Japan for national development without paying individuals for compensation. There is no doubt that the economic growth of Korea, which was said to be "the Han River's miracle", was made with the efforts of the Korean people, with the liquidation paid for this and North and South Korea as the driving force.
And the Korean government surprisingly, has not informed the people about this treaty. Is it to conceal what was diverted to national development without paying to individuals? Or maybe it is to aim for an increase in Japanese hate within the Korean people? Or perhaps both?
For that reason, Korea still considers that Japan is not fulfilling its promise and is outraged. Also, they are suing for damages that ended in Japan, and this is creating one of the big gaps between Japan and Korea. I think that it is necessary to know this well as well as Korean citizens and Japanese people.
Eli Young
Why is there a Korean tv show about ancient Japanese burial mounds?
Noah Allen
Fun thread I created, tho its just a bunch or nips sperging out and some confused gooks
Brandon Gray
Look at this.
This is kofun from Korea.
This is kofun frim japan And Chinese ancient records(which only considered real primary evidence of east asisn study) is saying korea was subjected to japan.So chinese themself accepts ancient korean was subjected to japan
In the People's Republic of China, the textbook "World History Lecture" published by Shanghai People's Publishing Company states that "Shilla has recovered the Nenna district that was the basis of the Japanese for a long time in the southern peninsula from the early days" There [30]. In the Japanese history column of the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China, "Although the beginning of the 5th century, the power expanded to the southern part of the Korean Peninsula during the period when Yamato became prosperous", it was protested from the Korean government , Deleted all parts of Japanese history before the Second World War from the Japan Introduction column [31].
Sebastian Howard
What did you expect Westerners would be eager to express their educated opinions on yellow people?
Cameron Brooks
Sad. Your precious precious evidences are already logically refuted.
Try to translate it to japanese with google
If you're that intrested in this 100yrs old outdated shit.
Korean-Japanese google translation are usually well working and again. Sad.
Jaxson Wilson
Also, the Japanese paid repeatedly during 2015, with the Korea-Japan agreements made over comfort women.
"Japan paid 1 billion yen again in 2015."
Almost all the old comfort woman took the money and accepted the agreements at the time of president park, but the Korean media hid it.
Japan paid 1 billion yen again in 2015 during the comfort woman final agreements and Korean government did this:
1. Paid 10 million yen to surviving comfort women based on the Korea-Japan Agreement and paid 2 million yen to the families of dead comfort women.
2. Three-quarters of surviving comfort women, 36 out of 47 people, accepted. Of these, 34 had already received aid.
3. Of the family members of 199 dead comfort women, they also accepted the bereaved families of 68 people. Comfort women and their families accepted and reconciled the money as a problem with the Korea-Japan Agreement, but only President Moon has provoked and instigated trouble, as if the agreement had problems.
Samuel Rogers
Jeremiah Price
Even Google translater directly saied it’s correct Now try to against google translater
Right now tell me your interpretation of those ancient records.
If you can against google
Try fucking gook
Luke Fisher
A former comfort women participated in a trail in 1992 that they wanted us to refund the money she collected at that time to the Japanese post office.
26,145 yen (now converted about 40 million yen) which we deposited 12 times from June 1943 to September 1945.
At the time, salary details of about 40,000 were submitted to the Japanese court in 1993 by a wartime comfort woman herself.
40,000 is equivalent to 20 million yen nowadays. That’s staggering.
Monthly income comparison (1943)
· Prime Minister 800 yen Tojo Hideki
· General Army 550 yen
· Sergeant Chair 32 ~ 75 yen
· Sergeant Armament 23 ~ 32 yen
· Corporal, 20 Yen
· Heavyweight commander 13,5 yen
· Secondary soldier 10,5 yen
· First class soldier 9 yen
· Second Nurse Secondary 9 ~ 6 yen
The comfort women at the time repaid the parent's debt after being prepaid 300-1500 yen. You can see how much that’s worth by comparing it to the list above
Nathaniel Gomez
KEK
Jonathan Moore
(You) #
(You) #
(You) #
Well, next up is whether this is a large amount. Well, Germany was presented with ample compensation after the war, so let's refer to Germany. Compensation for German forced laborers is between 300,000 yen and 800,000 yen in present value conversion, even the highest Jewish slave labour is 800,000 yen. It’s obvious, looking at these values, that Japan's post-war payment to Korea was incredibly costly.
The total amount of 800 million dollars is 2.3 times the Korean national budget at the time, which shows how high it was. Incidentally, this amount of compensation is for all areas of the Korean Peninsula, they took money for North Korea from Japan and used it for South Korea and they’re still asking compensation from japan, even now!
That’s not a very good look for South Korea, who only seem to be thinking of the money.
Also, how often we apologize for war criminals…
We can see Japanese government apologists so often, and the government of Japan itself never denied the existence of Japanese war criminals of the past.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Liam Davis
And Korean gorvenment decided to force japan to pay 24000000000us doller (in muximun) from the 245 company of japan in Korea now for the again and again and again and again the compensation of ww2.
The economically relationship of japan and korea is ended and it will goes economical war now
Japanese gorvenment is now saying it might let embassy of japan in Korea to go back to japan
We are now this level now
Korean is racist to japan
Also Japan Sea reconnaissance plane 's SDF airplane (P3C patrol aircraft)
Had been irradiated by a laser point for attack on the ship belonging to the Korean army, and it was understood that the act of interfering with the patrol duty was done ...
Laser point irradiation is ... consistent with missile launch behavior. Imagine your air planes are shoted and pointed the missiles from korean army?
Korean troops acted war acts on the Japanese Self Defense Forces.
Jace Bailey
>Book of sui
隋書'が編纂された時期を考慮して,政治的目的が強く反映されたものとみたり,本文にも出ているが,編纂過程が厳密でないと理解することがより信憑性がある。
'隋書'の記録も聖徳太子が'東天子が西天子に,うまくいく? していた,日本自身のアイデンティティーが国際秩序以上に表れていた時代であり,ここに鼓舞された日本の虚勢が記録に反映されたのではないかという意見がある。
ところで,最初から手書きには新羅を高句麗の敗残兵が建てたとか,新羅の王が百済の出身だとか(...)などといった誤った事実もすべて事実であるように叙述されているので,交差検証が必ず必要な司書と言える。 つまり,手書きに出てくる記録をすべて事実として見ることはできないということだ。
Is this readable? :3
Cameron Fisher
David Reed
>The Portraits of Periodical Offering ofLiang
2011年に新しいバージョンの洋織工も新羅の記録が発見された。# これは国立古宮博物館に2本(新しいバージョン)があるのだが,陽織孔道の模写本(原本を配って模倣した本)だ。 良職公道は中国の南京博物館に所蔵されている。 元々,洋織工道には百済の使臣の姿だけが見られたが,台湾にある古宮博物館の模写本には新羅と高句麗の使臣の姿も見られる。 その内容に"韓·韓·倭"(一時は恨に属し,一時は倭に属したこともある)となっており,メディアでは"任那日本府説の証拠ではないかという議論が起きている"と報じた。 古宮博物館にある2本の模写本は,2011年になってようやく台湾で現れた。
しかし大きな脈絡から,"酷速倭"という一節は,前述した冊封の内容に基づいていると推定され[16],"酷速な"という一句も,三韓時代を指す叙述であったり,百済の言論プレーと推定される。 全般的にみると,残りの記録も他の新羅関連の記録とほぼ一致しており,このように差が出る部分も大きな脈絡で,既存の記録とほぼ一致しているため,以前の司書では単なる抜粋の内容以上のものとは推定される。 そして"韓火ワ"からの"属"は"服属する,属する"という意味ではない。 当時の醸造に朝貢を行う際,新羅と倭国は百済の使臣に多く期待されたが,百済は馬韓,辺韓,辰韓とはやや異質感のある民族として,新羅が秦漢または倭と似た民族だと考えただろうという見解もある。 すなわち"韓国製"という意味は"または濃い"は"韓民族か"は"倭"の属"という意味に解釈する必要があるということだ。
Mason Russell
しかし上に正月は間違って解釈されたものだ。 属韓国型ワロという意味は"オモ(または韓)はチンジン(韓)の族属かホックは倭(倭)の属だ。"ではなく,ある時は属する"という意味だ。 つまり,"属国"という意味だ。 つまり,ある時は漢(真韓)に属し,ある時は倭に属したという意味であり,その次に続くものは"新羅王が使臣を送ることができなかった。"である。 これは新羅使臣が百済使臣を通じて通訳をしたのだが,百済人として新羅を誤解して言ったか,当時百済は倭の力を借りて新羅を攻撃して高句麗に発ったが,その時未斯欣を人質に送った新羅を"属国"と表現した可能性もある。
さらに,両職空道の百済の部分には,伽耶(かや)と見える国家(反婆,全羅など)とサラ(新羅と推定)という国家が百済の"芙蓉国"という記録もある。 #任那日本府説は"倭が韓半島南部に影響力を持った"と主張するが,両職での公道は"むしろ百済が影響力を持っている"と書かれていて反ばくする。[17][18]
そして,これだけでは任那日本府を主張しづらいのが,当時は事実関係とは全く違って,各国の力学関係を叙述して冊封するのがごく稀だった。 代表的に真徳女王は"新羅楽浪群王"として冊封されたが,楽浪は高句麗の首都である平壌にいたり,百済の威徳王もまた"東清住師"という冊封を受けたが,実際に東清州は中国山東地方だった。 "山東経略説"というように,他人の領土名前を冊封名で下賜されたり,他国を自分たちの属国と主張することは,当時非常によくあることだった。
Julian Brooks
The stele one is tooooo long to translate. Do it yourself mah jap dude. If the previous ones are readable.
Kevin Flores
what are you rambling on gook?
it's pretty much the scholarly consensus outside korea that baekje and silla were subjugated by yamato as always.
japanese, chinese and western historians all agree while only gooks fall back on fantasies. seriously what level of mental gymnastics make it possible for you gooks to fall for the fantasy when
korea's been japan's vassal from the get go, and your obsession with japan and imperial family comes from this miserable history.
World historian organization concluded this
Nathan Hughes
They are in South Korea
Jose Myers
Guess it's not readable lol as you're keep copy pasting things over and over again.
LUL
Brayden Cooper
what are you rambling on gook?
Jace Long
Wait.. isn't the Japanese emperor a Korean? Does that make the Japanese people descendants of Korea?
Henry Butler
Zainichi trying to interpreting ancient Chinese record as fuck as shit way
Just read straightly the record!
Even hooks saied it’s all true
Google can’t interpolation as fuck like gook do
Just read straightly and it’s everything
Even Google translater directly saied it’s correct #
(You) #
(You) #
Now try to against google translater
Right now tell me your interpretation of those ancient records.
If you can against google
Try fucking gook
(You) #
(You) #
Noah Foster
Kofun in South Korea
Eli Torres
>this thread
gud magnet thread for netouyo.
Japanese thread keeping peace.netouyos don't posting in Japanese thread.lul
Leo Jenkins
Why do Koreans and Japs hate each other? I thought they'd be bros as they have mutual interests
Ethan Young
All Japanese are descendants of Koreans
There are no exceptions
Because the Japanese are nationalists who have no anythings
so he spreading a nonsense that is not recognized by Japanese scholars.
Lucas Cox
It’s most shortest propaganda
There is no any record or evidence that Japanese emperor is korean or such shit
I’ll make article about it too.
But anyway Yayoi is not a single tribe but Very much mass up tribe from continental Asia.
Culturally most similar is wu dynasty of china.
Japan was like new world of ancient east Asia.
Think like this Yayoi was Spanish and Jomon was native South American.
They got war and after that Yayoi mixed it’s religion and meth of Jomon to controll Jomon (ko Shinto or Jomon Shinto )
And they made the story of the goddess of the rising sun (imperial Shinto)
And those people was saied themselfs as Yamato instead of wa.
And they send troops to south part of Korea and they controll that part and made ancient korean kingdom as subjects of Yamato.
And Yamato was Takeing chinese imfometion from the korea or from the china directory while ruling south part of Korea as you can see
But silla and tang China was united and got war with Yamato japan and beakje.
And Yamato and beakje team lost and Yamato lost the control of South part of korea.
Its all recorded in ancient Chinese record
en.m.wikipedia.org
tle_of_Baekgang
John Campbell
>attack Japan
What? Why is that even an option?
Jason Murphy
Swedish King was French
Jacob Cook
> Jap are slave
so koreans had been raped by slaves?
Nolan Thomas
Read
Ancient Chinese record is only primary evidence of study of ancient east asisn study.
And it says korean was subjected to japan (You) # (You) #
This is the same level of fucktarded reasoning that leads people to say that the French conquered England because William I came from Normandy, or that the French founded Germany because Charlemagne was a Frank.
The funny thing is that French don't believe such nonsense, because they have a real history in which they can take pride. Just as with the "Koreans created Japan" story, actually, I've only heard it from Koreans, far-left Japanese (i.e., Zainichi Koreans using Japanese names), and the occasional German. These sorts of "theories" are deliberate and blatant misunderstandings of history, often mere fabrications, made up out of envy and spite, to insult superior nations out of a sense of inferiority.
what are you rambling on gook?
it's pretty much the scholarly consensus outside korea that baekje and silla were subjugated by yamato as always.
japanese, chinese and western historians all agree while only gooks fall back on fantasies. seriously what level of mental gymnastics make it possible for you gooks to fall for the fantasy when even royal families of baekje and silla were taken as hostages by yamato and the story is recorded not only on japanese chronicles but your own primary history record, samguk sagi? korea's been japan's vassal from the get go, and your obsession with japan and imperial family comes from this miserable history.
Kayden Cooper
There they go again.