Surely they wouldn't want to take away the one alternative from American citizens, that would prevent government agencies from spying on them? Oh no, no... that would not be something a free and democratic country would do, now would it?
good, ban them. those phones are nothing but trouble. it's one thing for your own government to spy on you (i don't like that either), but a foreign, communist government? fuck that. fuck huawei and fuck china.
Easton Lee
>buying chinkshit For me? It's iPhones. This but unironically
Parker Martinez
I have a Huawei phone and I also use the fingerprint to unlock it. Fuck the USA! Workers unite!
Adam Wood
I have to agree, fuck china, fuck its government
Nathaniel Scott
goyim is buying the 250$ xiaomi with 6GB RAM and 8 cores instead of brand new 5000$ iPhone? noooo shut it down
America does not do protectionism. This is for your safety citizen, praise freedom ok.
Grayson Fisher
Poorfags
Mason Young
The thing is it's not just Huawei. Every Chinese company does the CCP's bidding.
Christopher Smith
If you buy any of those devices you are a system bitch anyway
Brayden Cox
t. Syrian refugee scamming Amerilards
Nicholas Lee
The devil I know, thank you very much.
Ryder Hall
we should ban china all together for a number off reasons: they pollute they make crappy shit all their devices phone home to mother china and the communist party we should not support communism we should not support the shitty conditions chinease workers have to endure we should not support the insect people china don't care about putting dangerous chemicals in their plastics
Leo Bell
SEETHING pauper
Henry Williams
Oh no the CCP will invade 1/4 of the world, genocide millions, force me to learn Chinese and they will ceede 2/3 of Hungary to their minions. Oh wait the Anglos already did it.
Brandon Hughes
And American companies don’t follow the diktats of the US government?
Robert Campbell
Yes, but not to the same extent. The US has to go through courts, undergo media scrutiny, political opposition and largely only manages to gain access to things because people are scared of terrorism.
Because Android virgins don't realize that people laugh at them for having green bubbles
Charles Carter
>please don't use those phones we can't see your data on there
Kevin Bennett
Unironically just buy Sony.
Dominic Scott
Based Cry more insectoids
David Barnes
America is unironically better than China on all levels.
Grayson Allen
good Huawei are both poor quality and a liability
Kevin Turner
>Ban American companies from purchasing I think that's fair. There's been a lot of corporate espionage traced back to China lately. They actually can do damage on companies, they're not really going to care about individuals. if
Liam Long
>America is unironically better than China on all levels.
The american government takes orders from their companies not the reverse
Leo Mitchell
is there actually any proof these phones spy for china? because it just comes across as another us-china trade war fight
presumably other countries would've noticed too and said something yeah? or you know actually banned the phones already
Hunter Gutierrez
Everything which has Android must be banned
Charles Johnson
Good. They should be banned because nobody should be giving money to totalitarian commie states.
Nathan Rogers
do you know where your iphone is made?
Angel Williams
Why the fuck do I care if Xiping can see what I wanked to or how often I text my dealer
Charles Foster
Kys Chang
Josiah Wilson
it can't affirmatively say that they're spying on others through phones but by analysis on parts inside them, there's suspicious parts which professionals can't recognized as legitimate one.
Charles Moore
funny how something 99.99% of Americans don't know about and give no shits about is a big deal to some Hungarian.
Lucas Rivera
Don't own one.
Camden Cruz
...are you bragging that americans are ignorant?
Daniel Morales
I don't think the issue is that Huawei is going to spy on some French anons texts to his drug dealer, it's that Huawei is essentially an extension of the Chinese state. They will undoubtedly use any position of power in the West to gather as much information as possible and exert as much influence as possible. Whether you or I have a Huawei phone isn't much of an issue, assuming you aren't some person of interest. Here they have been banned from large infrastructure projects as they are deemed a high risk.
Dominic Rivera
AMAZING FREE MARKET!!
Gabriel James
It's not ignorance if it really doesn't matter. why should we care about some Chinese social media website? I don't expect you to know my local grocery store.
Mate 20 is unironically the best phone on the market
Angel Powell
euros making posts like these are extremely cringey
Jonathan Clark
They are doing the same thing as the late-stage Soviet Union which was stealing anything that wasn't nailed down and infiltrating Western universities and media outlets with propaganda.
William Sanders
Dumb normalfags associate Android with whatever shit phone they had before they made a bad financial decision and splurged on the latest iPhone. They go from a random shit Android to the best iPhone available and then they're cool apparently. This is being generous and assuming they don't just buy a shitty years old deprecated iPhone and still shit on Android because they have an "iPhone" because brand association matters to them more than what product they actually own. Provided they even know that there are multiple iPhone models in the first place.
Jaxson Gomez
can we all just drop the pretense of saying capitalism and a free market system doesn't have or rely on government intervention to function? every country has their own laws with subsidies, tax breaks, procurement contracts and all this other shit. this is a argument that that other country shouldn't meddle as much as my country in the free market. which is hilariously hypocritical.
Wyatt Scott
Good. They're all fucking commies.
Dominic Bell
The US (((federal government))) wants a monoply on spying.
Jose Jones
fuck am*rica fuck ch*na fuck r*ssia fuck e*rope build a huge wall around this country NOW
Sebastian Fisher
>America to BAN Huawei from their country absolutely based
this
you will still be spied on by your own government, retard. even if you use a foreign brand, you are still using your native mobile network and internet service provider. the only thing buying a chinkshit phone will do for you is make it so that you get spied on by two governments instead of just one.
Michael Jenkins
Right now Chinese actually make better and cost per performance phones than any American phone. Huawei is actually better than Apple lol.
Justin Thompson
>the only alternative to chinkshit is an iphone
Henry Phillips
If you are afraid of spying from the hardware, then every smartphone produced in China would be dangerous. If you are afraid of spying from the software, then you should stop using windows with its countless backdoors that the NSA accumulates, and claim after they are discovered, that they were just programming errors.
Chase Ross
THIS People like to forget that China is not capitalist, but state-run capitalist. Every major company in China is the bitch of the government. Whilst in the USA most companies have a degree of distance from the US government.
Josiah Peterson
Oh yea and the USA is much better:
>Promoting multiculturalism >Promoting feminism >Tolerating LGBT >Exporting Jewish interracial nigger porn >Can't criticize ethnic minority's >Shills for Israel >Insists that everyone in the world should care for blacks >(((Hollywood)))
>is there actually any proof these phones spy for china? given that we and other countries are also purging huawei tech from our networks, i'd say "yes".
bbc.co.uk/news/business-46368001 >New Zealand has become the latest country to block a proposal to use telecoms equipment made by China's Huawei because of national security concerns.
bbc.co.uk/news/business-19879864 >Canada has invoked a "national security exception" for hiring firms to build a secure communications network, allowing it to block those seen as a security risk. >there is speculation the move may be targeted at China's Huawei.
bbc.co.uk/news/business-46468088 >Still, Huawei's founder, the father of Ms Meng, is Ren Zhengfei - a former military officer in the Chinese army. And the fact remains, as Mr Zaagman points out in a recent piece for The Lowy Institute, "the firm's relationship with the Chinese People's Liberation Army remains an issue of concern and opacity". >Which is why the US says countries must be wary of Chinese companies like Huawei. Under China's laws, private companies and individuals may be obliged to hand over information or data to the government if they are indeed asked.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46431810 >The chief of MI6 has raised questions over Chinese technology companies being involved in the UK's communications infrastructure. >Australia has already blocked Chinese company Huawei from supplying equipment for its 5G mobile network
Anthony James
It is really bad. I blame greedy western corporations that wanted their electronics made by cheap little insect hands instead of investing in western countries. We are in deep shit now.
Connor Morales
Corporation spying on me (Google, Apple, Samsung, etc) vs Government Spying (China) on me, which do I prefer? I rather go with the corporation. At least I get some benefits from them, via services I can use, while governments uses it to further their propaganda to hinder my life style, and they will also sell to the corporate without me benefiting. A Chinese company can't get that big without being heavily in bed with the government.
Note I said life style, not freedom, because there is no true freedom in its literal meaning.
Evan Rodriguez
Meanwhile, the only "proof" of chinese spying is an article from bloomberg that was described as a lie by every concerned actors. The part about huawei using its 5G network for spying, when everyone knows since snowden revelations in 2013 that communications can't be trusted and that every data should be encrypted, sounds exactly like an excuse for protectionism.
Juan Stewart
same shit dude. America just makes a law telling private companies what to do and boom, they fall in line like dominoes. China and America have the exact same power to compel any company to do their bidding, see NSA and CIA shenanigans.
Jonathan Taylor
Thing is, there are plenty of other places where things could be manufactured cheaply instead of China. There are so many developing countries around the world which would love to have our business, but we ignore them all for some reason in favour of this oppressive, totalitarian state which is fundamentally and ideologically opposed to us.
Why do we put all our eggs in this big Chinese basket and give them so much power over us (not to mention wealth) when there are plenty of other baskets around the world which we could use instead?
Austin Collins
we literally have a president that is the opposite of all of those things.
Robert Young
no proof so far. but everybody should be aware of already is that nobody has privacy in communications unless you're using end to end encryption. and that's not even a guarantee that some covert backdoor hasn't been installed or a zero day exploit is being abused by someone.
Dylan Wood
You realise that just because the intelligence community knows something doesn't mean the public and media know it, right?
The fact that the chief of MI6 has gone as far as to publicly hint at the fact that using Chinese comms tech is not the greatest idea suggests that he knows something which we don't.
Aiden Collins
That happens in any country
Cooper Torres
Intelligence services have the proof, clearly. They just don't make it public. The fact that Huawei specifically is being targeted when there are other Chinese companies in the same business shows that it's not a protectionist move, otherwise they would be banning those other businesses too.
Jason King
>Kids are married to Jews and his youngest daughter to an Arab >Shills for Israel / Saudi Arabia >Hasn't fixed the racial problem in America >Did not implement a coup and establish himself as a permanent ruler >Hasn't done shit to ban pornography and limit Hollywood
Isaac Allen
proof is something we can objectively verify from a neutral or fair analysis. the argument that intelligence services *must* have proof and not making it public is the same thing as saying I have a lambo in my garage that nobody is allowed to see it, but trust me, it's there.
if any intelligence community has proof that Huawei is spying on it's products the repercussions would be huge on the world market, Huawei is a multi billion dollar company with contracts around the world with hundreds of governments. if there was conclusive proof that Huawei was spying with their products intentionally, the impact and loss of revenue would be far greater then simple innuendo. infact, it would probably kill the companies plans to build any communications infrastructure around the world.
Alexander Carter
>There have been concerns that this could open the way for some kind of intercepting of communications or even sabotage.
You realise that this literally means he doesn't think that there is a danger right now , and he is only suggesting that maybe, in the future, there could be one? So huawei are the bad guys because they can't prove in the present that they will not be guilty of something in the future? I can do that too. We should make windows illegal because maybe the NSA will force microsft to add backdoors in an update.
Kevin Nelson
European companies like Bayer, Siemens and Philips are under continuous attack by Chinese hackers because of that sweet sweet research they do. Chinese take it and start copying it because fuck you. I worked at a pharmaceutical company that had it's own Linux distro because no one can be trusted. >Hey gaiz! lets use cheap chink shit as servers! What could go wrong?
Thomas Richardson
who buys such garbage phones anyway ? today if you don't have an iphone you're a loser and you do not exist
Daniel Murphy
America has lost the Mandate of Heaven.
Aaron Ramirez
>implement a coup against American principles and traditions The US military aligns with the Constitution. US presidents have no leverage over the people here
William Perry
google vault 7
Benjamin Hernandez
>Huawei >give your data to America and China >Every other cell phone >give your data to America and maybe China hmm
Joseph Walker
This but unironically
Josiah Gomez
The thing is that America has laws to protect investments and trade. China has not. That's why they aren't on the international space station.
Leo Sanders
Americucks mad that huawei is BTFOing their gayphone.
Used to own iphone 7 years ago, then switched to android and never looked back.
Bought pic related this summer, its better than the latest iphone in every metric and it costs like 300 euros less