Cannot feel any emotions anymore please help

The third aspect which is important to understand in terms of mental health, and brain/mind dysfunction/illness is thought.

Yes, thought - the thing that a large amount of people consider to be intangible, non-physical, immeasurable. That's simply ignorance. Thoughts are physical things - they are embodied in the electrical pulses, known as action potentials, within neurons.

Our thoughts, our consciousness, our experience of external stimulus and internal stimulus (example: thinking about thinking) has a physical basis in our organic system and thus has the potential to be massively impactful or impacted by the physical system itself.

To put it simply: Emotions affect decisions, decisions affect behaviour, behaviour affects emotions, and so on and so forth.

Furthermore, the concept of neuroplasticity is fundamental to the understanding of how thought can have a massively detrimental impact on our mental function in both a non-physical and physical manner.

The framework, form, and function of our brains predisposes the brain to being receptive and adaptive - what this means is that our brains are malleable on a neurological level by understanding that the receptive nature of the brain promotes adaption and in saying that the receptivity of the brain also promotes routine and consistent established stimulus.

This means that our mental experience is predisposed to positive adaption or negative adaption. People can easily find themselves trapped in a vicious cycle involving their emotions, their thoughts, their choices, their behaviours. All of which impact upon each other increasing the severity of the vicious cycle.

In that case would you recommend sleeping more, more often? I'm currently all over the place in terms of sleep pattern in the last month but getting better.

The last couple years ive been doing:

Weekdays = 6 - 8 hours
Weekends = 8 - 10 hours. 12 if im really bad.

Currently this week I've been doing well, 6 hours weekdays and likely 8-9 weekend. The previous 2-3 weeks was anywhere between 0 and 12 a day. The zopiclone double dose helped with this. Not taken any for 4 days now and seems to be somewhat regular sleep. But I wake up still tired and not wanting to go back to sleep. Which is new to me.

I understand but you are talking with a lot of jargon. No offense, just trying to help. I'm still reading and taking in what you are saying. Its not basic function and form. It might be if you're reading up on it often but unfortunately not to me. Today atleast.

In the /osg/ thread we came from (If you are rex), the general from before I listed my meds and asked others about theirs. At one point I was giving my opinion on them. My opinion is that I'm not addicted to them. Infact quite the opposite. I don't like taking the anti psychotics.The sleeping tablets are ok and actually work. But I don't take them regularly and I've only took them in the past 3-4 weeks. I was on venlafaxine before, the same 150mg dose and I stopped cold turkey because they weren't helping. I eventually got out of my depression through other circumstances. I've stopped taking propanalol. It was helping me with heart palpitations and was successful. I have a few left and only take them if im feeling super anxious now. which I have only done once.

To some up the last paragraph, I have never been nor do I think I will be addicted to pills. I'm being 'forced' to take them by my girlfriend, doctors and family. To someone who is clueless about my mental health and how to fix it, I have to go with what my closest professional says.

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I do however think the professionals I'm seeing are only giving me pills based on numbers of people killing/harming themselves or others. It seems thats only what they care about. Which is fair enough, but I need more help with my lack of emotions. Thats why I want to kill myself sometimes. I dont want to be fed tablets that just stop me thinking of suicide I want actual help to my personal problem. Hope that makes sense. Was a bit of a ramble.

out of all the comments you've made, this one I felt didn't connect at all with me. I'm not sure of your point or how it relates.

Thought, as in our experience of reality, is incredibly important to understand - what I mean is - it is fucking important to understand ourselves, who we are, not just in the sense of our personality, or our hobbies, our dreams, values. But we must know who we are on a biological level too. We must know that who we are, or our ability to be the best person we can be, is not just about thinking happy thoughts - no, it's about understanding the basic but extremely important connections between eating well, sleeping well, thinking well, and mental health as a whole.

The answer - as it has always been - is you. You are the answer - but you have to understand yourself, as I said, not just in the realm of the mind, but also in the realm of the body.


If a person doesn't sleep well, they are predisposed to being emotionally unstable, if they are emotionally unstable they are predisposed to making poor choices, if they make poor choices they are predisposed to negative behaviour, if they behave in such a way they are then predisposed to emotional instability - and so on and so forth.

It's the same if people don't eat well.

Or if they have negative and harmful thought frameworks, perceptions of self, or the world.

Ultimately, if I wanted to, I could drive a person insane by depriving them of food, or water, or sleep, or by breaking them down mentally through subversive strategies which would erode their self awareness, self belief, and general concept of validity in reality.

This, at the end of the day, is the core of mental illness. The person suffering mental illness, in the majority of cases, is experiencing a disconnect from reality, an inability to function within reality, they are not able to experience and interact with reality as per normal.

As I've said, this can then become a vicious cycle - their sleep pattern is fucked up, they eat less, their brain becomes less functional, their mind becomes more unstable, and it goes on.

But the answer is you.

Yes I am Rex. And yes I understand there's jargon and aspects of it are difficult to understand - as far as I am aware you've not had good sleep for the past three days right? You mentioned that earlier, so your cognitive function is not as sharp as it normally would be. I hope I haven't come across as forceful, as in, if you don't understand this stuff right this minute, then that's bad. That's not what my values or motives are - I have used the term "basic" because it's learnable, understandable. It's not like fucken algebra haha. I mean at first it may seem that way, new words and all that, but we can quickly look up word definitions, and such, to bring us up to speed.

My offer still stands you know, with discord and all.

I hesitate to tell you what to do, or to suggest what to do, simply as I don't know you and your life well enough yet - if I were to become informed, so I could at least give an informed, objective opinion, that would be the most beneficial thing for you and for me in that regard.

And I'm open to getting to know you more and helping bring into focus any areas that don't make sense yet, and helping you help yourself basically.

I empathize with where you're at, it would be tough being pressured or forced to take pills. I hear that.

I don't want to make any promises as I said I don't know you well yet, to make any kind of statement on what you should do or how things will go - but do understand that since 2011 I hit complete rock bottom 7 times. The only reason I didn't kill myself 6 of those times is because I didn't want my parents to suffer and the 7th time is because police pulled me over when I was going 140km/h through a city. I have lived the numbness. I think it is logical to understand that is a person was to eat well, sleep well, and have a healthy thought framework (sense of self, sense of the world) then that person most definitely would experience the typical range of emotions.

Alright well thanks for all this. That made more sense, wasn't sure if you';d finished. I'm actively trying to eat better and exercise more. The sleep is something I wasn't too bothered about. But I'll work on that. I thought my sleep had improved since I last felt super high and super low emotions. I would sleep alot more though when i last felt emotions I think.

The sleep has been somewhat bad recently but is improving. I'm not sure if im supposed to sleep more or less? What would you suggest? My aim is 7-8 hours weekdays, 9-10 weekends. I can stick to that once things get better (Which they are).

I have your discord username written down, I'm hesitant to use it because of some situations that I've heard about at work. I work in IT. But I'm leaning more towards using it because of some people on osrs wanting to talk to me and I feel like its more safe nowadays. Failing that i'll spin up a VM and use that. But thats just extra resources.

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It's impossible for someone to grab someone's IP through discord. All in all it's a safe program to use - as long as you're not a dumbass and click on random links sent to you by random people who can't be verified as legit and trustworthy. That's risky.

Furthermore, you can always create a "fake" email and use that to sign up to discord, and just use a fake name, all that good stuff.

I honestly would have to get to know you better to really give quality suggestions.
But in general, six to 7 hours of sleep is healthy - but it has to be nourishing, restful sleep - not interrupted sleep.

Food, it's important to eat a diet with protein, antioxidants, zinc, iron, vitamin c, probiotics (helps maintain a healthy digestive system), fibre, and that's about all I can think of right now without going off and doing research haha.

I do hope you'll add me because I want to also talk about the meds you're on, and just see how things are. Not going to tell you what to do, but as a fellow human, and you seem like a nice human, I feel like I would be irresponsible to not help you if I can. I don't want you to be stuck in a situation that you don't need to be in at all. I take this seriously, I have from the moment in OSG a few hours ago - fwiw my parents are both medical professionals, Dad is a doctor, and so is my sister. This shit is my life haha. I am not a doctor but I do live by the hippocratic oath in my daily life - and my future career will be in mental health. So I hope that helps ease any concerns you may have had around me.

I'll likely be on it this evening after another quick check. Its not IP or my details being leaked i care about, I can change both. I've seen some nastier crap come from it.

That is reassuring I guess. I will add you once I've checked it again and had dinner.

Ah I see.
Well I hope the check goes well.
What's for dinner? it's almost 3am here and I'm famished ha.

bell pepper (think thats the american term for it, we call it pepper)

Chicken satay sticks, breaded cheese/rice. about 600 cal altogether.

Where you from? Why you staying up so late?