Business idea to make money of CA gun laws

>Make a M1 Garand with modern, cheaper manufacturing methods.

>Fixed Magazine

>Still quick to reload

>Under 10 rounds

>Now made much cheaper

>Market hard in Cali

>Profit $$$

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>and then after seeing how popular it is, politicians ban it by name

Best one was the indian territory one. Where Native americans would set up shop selling guns on indian territory where state laws dont apply.

They didn't ban featureless grips or quick receiver opening AR's yet. Those are specifically loophole products.

uuuuntil CA prohibits firearms capable of shooting more than one round in three minutes. You probably have about 3 - 5 years to run with this business plan before your time is up.

>>Make a M1 Garand with modern, cheaper manufacturing methods.
And maybe even in 5.56, but a little smaller and lighter, with detachable magazines, and have Ruger make it.

Hipoint tried it and it still failed in Cali because it looked like shit. If it's cheaply made people will post vids online on how cheap it is. Plus you have to have it be approved on the roster.

>nuke California
>major capital of the US left dies
>????
>profit

its stupid. if you dont make it to at least milspec with interchangeable parts everyone will say it garbage. not to mention the tiny market these really have. Sure people think there cool but they arnt planning on spending $1,100 to feel like theyre in a battlefield video game (except you Jow Forums)

Besides how cheap can you really make something like that, i dont think its possible to have them any cheaper than $5-600 MSRP.

You're just overestimating the market for something like this (cheap reproduction) the people who want m1/m14's have the money to buy them as is.

Something like a luger po4 or Mauser pistol might do ok though in the $400 price range.

>Make a M1 Garand with modern, cheaper manufacturing methods.
HA, good fucking luck with trying to figure that one out.
Even that retarded .22LR M1 Garand made by Kingston, which is way less complex, is more expensive than a surplus one from the CMP.

SO a Mini-14 that doesn't look ugly?

How about a STANAG-compatible MAS 49/56, complete with direct impingement?

It theoretically addresses most things people bitch about in the mini, except for the lego modularity.

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>Outdated surplus that was produced with the benefits of economies of scale is less expensive than modern novelty gun

wild

That's my dream right there. It would sell like clean water in Flint.

Exactly why trying to produce a modern M1 Garand reproduction is just as retarded as the people who say reproduction Lugers are a good idea.
There's barely a market for them when they're gonna have to cost several thousands of dollars more than an original in order to turn a profit.

If someone can find a source for MAS 49/56 receivers, I can try to cobble one together, minus the STANAG compatibility, over the course of a few years. The bolts are still available and they can either be modified to take .223 or used to make blueprints to machine a new bolt just for .223.

I know people have made a sort of adjustable gas regulator part for the 49/56 to unfuck the century .308 conversions which takes care of a lot of the hard work needed (no need to maching 9001 gas blocks, just twiddle with the knob) to do trial and error to tune the gas block.

The only drawback I could think of is all that gas is going straight into your face because lol open reciever

However it doesn't seem to be a problem on hakims.

that works great for services and gray market goods like cigars, but the gubmint would jump on it and put checkpoints everywhere if any real amount of guns were being sold by indians.

Ask Iver Johnson how well making M1 carbines worked for them.

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>M1 Garands
>M1 Carbines

They aren't the same user. And even if they were, there's much more of a market for this kind of shit now then there was 40 years ago.

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>luger po4
The did this already and nobody bought the new ones because they weren't the WW2 captures.

garands aren't forged.

>yet

Okay hear out my shit posting but what if you make a revolver rifle off pic related but with a
>10 round cylinder
>Lights DA trigger pull
>Barrel at 6 o clock position
>Picatinny Rail spanning from end of the iron sights to the sight

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Yes they were.
The US military did not cast recievers.

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The M1 Garand is an older design meant to be manufactured in vast numbers with many machining operations per gun. It was fairly expensive even when they had the machines, production numbers and cheap labor to make it viable (but justified since it was a massive leap in combat effectiveness over a bolt-action).

In any case a repro M1 is exactly the kind of thing that's prohibitively expensive to manufacture in small numbers for a niche market. Something like an SKS or Carbine would be easier, but nothing comes close to the AR15/18 systems since the receiver isn't load bearing and can be made of anything.

As it happens there is a Californicated AR-15 (Fightlite SCR), an AR-18 (Kel-Tec SU-16, although you could do better) and a modernized M1 carbine (Ruger Mini-14) available already. It can't hurt to introduce something else to the market (like a featureless AR-18 derivative with a metal receiver and wood stock that takes AR10 magazines) but you aren't entering an empty market.

As for M1 repros, forget it. Retail price for an OK one would be at least $1,200. With originals obtainable from $800-1k it's a hard sell. Carbines are more viable because they're cheaper to make and originals are quite expensive, but people are leary of commercial repros (thanks to Universal) and there are several companies making repros already. Besides which .30 carbine is effectively obsolete and if you chambered it in 5.56x45mm you'd basically have a Mini-14, although of course there's room to do that better.

Biggest problem with revolver rifles ia burning your hands from cylinder blowby. Putting the barrel at 6 o clock makes that a bigger problem. Besides which bore axis isn't a huge problem on a PCC.

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Your best bet would be to retrofit an M1A, since the tooling is all there, and the recievers come with a built-in stripper clip guide. It shouldn't be hard to make a fixed-mag for it. Only downside is that a fixed mag doesn't ping.

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Imagine being so fucking retarded you think electing some nobody politician will change fucking anything in the gargantuan US government

kill yourself you fucking dumbass

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Making a fixed magazine M14gery is a matter of cutting the magazine release catch off. At that rate the magazine can be removed after taking the trigger assembly out and reloaded from the top with stripper clips.

In any case it's unnecessary under current laws, since all you need to make it featureless is to substitute the flash hider with a brake and that lets you keep the magazines detachable. Otherwise it's a glorified 7.62RFN SKS.

so why not Bradly>Littles because Bradly has the better percentage in pols

I would buy a new M1 Garand chambered in .308 if they could do it for $800 or less but I doubt that is possible

John Cox for governor.
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Fulton armory still makes M1s in a decent variety of modded versions too. It's never going to be a cheap process, especially not in the US.

You bet your ass it will. People know the truth, and it only takes a few voices to change the tide. Look at the fucking civil rights movement

The (((polls))) that are actively stonewalling him, and that Cenk Uyghur and his pet liberal candidate are both kvetching about

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Vote for Cox & Bradly everyone else is worthless and littles believes in reparation pay for blacks

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Unless you use the nagant system that does create a seal, then you could even suppress it

Whatever you say you stupid faggot fed. There couldn't be anymore of an obvious psyop meme than that dumb shit

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They are. You must be thinking of the Springfield Shittery M1A

Yeah but that requires a proprietary cartridge, which is a non-starter or 7.62 Nagant which is weak, or some awkward external sealing mechanism.

>Oy vey goyim. Remember not to vote for that evil anti-Semite Patrick Little tomorrow in California! He wants to end aid to Israel. Best just let Dianne (((Feinstein))) win again.

Yeah, I guess we can chill at a Starbucks and talk about it huh?

Let me move out to AZ first, then nuke Commiefornia.

Keep your fucking california cancer there, we dont want you.

I think you are over thinking it.

Just make an american made sks out of billet aluminum instead of steel and have said sks use stanag have 5.56 and .300 blk as your first offerings.

And who would ban the rifle that beat those evil nasty fascists!

i own this legally in california
with detachable mags

>detach mags OR pistol grip

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You could have a dual trigger/dual stage trigger system where one trigger rotates the cylinder and moves it forward, and then the second trigger/stage drops the hammer.

Make it look like a garand as god intended. Limit the factory mag to 8 rnds.

Make it in 7.62 for all the commie lovers too!

They already make one. Just make the mini 14/30 mags 8 rds.

Already been done. It's called the mini-14 and M1A

American sks when?

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This plz

an M-14 that's chambered in 30-06

So basically like all those M1 experiments that gave it a mag?
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>Just make an american made sks
How complicated would the machining be?
There aren't guides on building it like the AK/AR/G3/etc. (considering they were so cheap as complete surplus for so long) so I don't know how difficult the process is.
I would assume it wouldn't be terrible (the chinese sold them for $99 new), but we don't have the tooling and Gov't subsidized startup that they do.

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SKS Milled receiver

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SKS Stamped receiver

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The guy you're replying to literally posted a Nagant gas seal carbine you fucking dope.

>that requires a proprietary cartridge
This is inaccurate. The Nagant cartridges are designed that way in order to squeeze some extra velocity out of the bullet, which at the time was the whole point of the design. But nothing stops you from firing conventional cartridges out of a similar design.

>Make it in 7.62 for all the commie lovers too!
booooo
make a Garand in .280 british with the 10 round mag like Garand intended

>.276 Pederson
ftfy

neato, more pictures?

I think you overestimate how much rural law enforcement in California actually cares about this shit.

There are 3 gun matches on the res in various places in California and people go, uncuck their guns, shoot the match, recuck their guns, then leave. I don't actually know if you can buy a gun on the res and I'm not sure if the laws on that are actually clear because you're technically out of state but you could buy mags and shit like that most likely.

Or you could just use magazines...