So quick rundown of my situation, i was handed this gas mask from a family member recently, they said it was a WW2 gas mask and believed i'd like it as a gift.
So after i got the mask i decided to see if i could make it functional again, it didn't have a filter or hose attached so i got some cheapo soviet surplus stuff and hooked them up, it has a "Minor" fogging issue, but seems to create a seal despite this.
I got one of the big filters because i imagine big filter means better protection, i live close to a power coal power plant and the air in this area is often kind of terrible, i was thinking of using it on walks.
but it would also make a good evacuation tool encase of an incident
Now i'm asking how would be fair way to test the mask, i tried deodorant and it seems ok.
I don't really have the funds for a decent mask, and i rather like re-purposing old stuff, so keep this in mind, i'm not looking for another mask for protection, just to get this one fully functional and test it.
No you fucking retard. Do not make the mask functional. With its current value a and the cost to make it functional you will lose more in value on the mask and spend more and gain fucking nothing. Just buy a Cold War mask and be done with it you fucking moron.
Luke Ross
You can get a good fucking surplus mask for under $30 you stupid fucking moron. Stop ruining shit.
Levi Campbell
>they said it was a WW2 gas mask It's not worth staking your life or health on 70 year old rubber, OP. Even if the seal seems to be good, there's a decent chance that it will not protect you from actual poison gas.
I doubt it was worth much, generic surplus junk, i think it's either British or Canadian, anyway, it's not something i have a interest in collecting, just something i have for SHTF purposes. practical use only, besides unless you run a active museum 5 days a week, you are a glorified hoarder.
I read somewhere that Soviet GP-5 filters have asbestos, i got this chunky one to avoid that, also even if they did, it would protect me more than it harmed me. Elaborate please?
Levi Ward
Pretty much every filter from the combloc has asbestos, and NATO filters pre 80s are dubious. Just get an israeli 4a1, and use modern filters if you care about your lungs.
Aaron Powell
99% of filters that are pre 90s will have asbestos
Tyler Hill
The facepiece is a British General Service Respirator Mark V, not all that hard to find, especially in Europe. The hose and Filter assembly are cannibalized off a Polish SzM-41M/MUA-style mask, so that brings down the resale value considerably, but it's good a good larping mask if nothing else. The EO-14 filter shouldn't be inherently damaging to your health so long as you don't breathe through it often, but honestly, you should have bought a Chinese 'Normalized' hose so you can use NATO 40mm canisters with it, as the Russian style threads are GOST 40mm and therefore not compatable with NATO filter threads.
Deoderant is also a horrendous way to check the seal of a mask, the scent is not consistent or noticable enough to give an accurate reading if a leak is present. Furthermore, the hose is not attached onto the ferrule all the way and there is not camps, wire, tape, or glue holding it on, so even if the mask doesn't leak, the hose can be easily and inadvertently dislodged. I rate this 5/10, right direction, but try harder next time, or just get a $30 Israeli 4A1.
Also work begins on repairing the horrendous tear on the recent Shigematsu Super Wide Vision that Moulage sent me. Coated the inside and front of the tear with aquaseal thinned with isopropyl alcohol, I’m gonna let it cure for 12 hours, and hopefully it doesn’t set off-center. Afterwards, I’ll sand the back and glue on a patch made of thinner black rubber.
The glue will make the spot look melty, but at least we know that fucker ain’t gonna tear off anytime soon, god willing.
What is Aquaseal, are you worried it may react with the rubber?
Landon Clark
Aquaseal is a urethane cement designed for waterproofing fabrics and bonding latex seals to drysuits. I don't think it will have any adverse effects on the rubber, but only time will tell. At the very worst, it just damages that one spot, which I can live with, it's not like I had to put the stuff all over the mask.
I've used a low temp soldering iron to repair mine, workes very well
Carson Howard
wait, what??? oh god, what mask did you repair? because I can tell you that most types of rubber, especially natural rubber latex are thermoset elastomers, meaning that they can't be melted and reused, they just char or burn when heat is applied. hell, trying to use heat is the reason this MCU-2/P doesn't have a nosecup - the thing caught on fire when I applied heat to try and remedy warping back in my dumb early days of collecting heat and masks don't mix, user
memes aside, what are reliable gas masks/filters for said mask? I'm a complete novice when it comes to this stuff. Like what would work for standard tear gas/smoke if a riot were to break out outside my window?
Isaac Long
>memes aside, what are reliable gas masks/filters for said mask? what said mask? you mean the one in op's pic? Because the filter I reccomend for that one is spending 30 bucks on a Czech CM-4 and a Polish FP-5 filter or a Chinese 'normalized' hose and a mestel filter and being infinitely more protected.
also most common filters will protect against riot control agents even when expired, just be sure not to use anything made prior to the 80's for that purpose.
oh i meant a reccomendation for a mask AND filters for the mask recommended. I.e. are there different brands etc.
I have a budget of $400 for a mask + however many more filters I can get in the budget. It's not like I NEED IT right now, but I could imagine having a mask with filters ready to go would be helpful if shit truly hit the fan.
Jaxson Green
>$400 shit, user $60 bucks will get you an avon FM-12 and you can use the rest on spare, unexpired filters ($30-$45 each at worst), an M50 canteen cap ($15 tops) + a 2-liter crushable canteen (again, like $15) to use with the drinking device, and probably enough dosh leftover to get a few tychem suits (likely $30 bucks a pop at worst) and some nbc gloves/overboots (both under $20). $400 has you set, my dude.
Pretty much, and no problem, it's a good mask if you can afford it.
Juan Hill
The SGE is worth the extra money desu, avoid surplus trash, they can never be trusted
Luis Rogers
I see. Ok then. I'll keep the Avon FM12 on the backburner as an option to consider, but if reviews are on point for the SGE, that all in one kit it looking nice. Not to mention it's brand new vs used. I've never had much luck with used gear/tech and the last failure I want is a gas mask when I actually need it.
Wyatt Stewart
again, the problem with the SGE are it's silicone face seals are impervious to blister agents and a $200 price tag over a $100 at worst price tag for a piece of unissued military-grade protection made of more chemically-resistant materials and the FM-12 isn't "surplus trash", it's literally current issue in several countries around the world. the SGE is slapped together to shill out to gullible preppers
Aiden Campbell
>gullible preppers A prepper is bound to know more than some children that Larp with gas masks.
Hunter Kelly
>A prepper is bound to know more than some children that Larp with gas masks. you niggas in here wanting to buy entire gas mask kits based off seller description like they're fucking kid cuisine meals but yet the opinions of people who actually spend their time researching the good and bad qualities of masks are worthless somehow
>actually spend their time researching Thats funny, just because you own a lot of toys, does not make it researching, Military surplus stuff is not to be trusted, because if it's been surplused, there is something wrong with it.
But sure kid, if you want to die of chemical poisoning while larping as a video game character, be my guest.
Preppers know best, because they understand the dangerous of the world and how to protect themselves, you might as well be a liberal living in la la land, surrogate daddy gov will keep you safe.
Brayden Sanders
Mfw legit defending a overpriced under-designed SCOOBA-RUBBA mask but not shilling to the LBM like a true fag, and you call yourself a prepper.
okay, now I'm convinced this is either bait or a summerfag lmfao do i smell a new copypasta?
Eli Collins
>tfw when you can't tell an LBM from your own asshole.
Asher Williams
Paintball mask? Sorry bud, the AirBoss LBM is no A I R S H I T mask. I get easy to confuse with your delusion behind the SGE but given this mask utilized a chloro-butyl mixed rubber, airlocking filter ports, and drinking tube, (all of which come as a standard package, simply I don't have to buy a version of the LBM to get all these amazingly basic features) but guess what buckaroo, the SGE you do so big win for you.
Austin Mitchell
Alright, maybe i was a bit hasty to judge the thing, after a quick search i guess it isn't a paintball mask, but it damn sure looks like one.
My point stands about surplus being worthless though, since they cannot be tested or used in a commercial environment since they have lower standards, and the fact they are used could mean the rubber is degraded in parts to the point of it being no longer protective, even if you can't see it.
There is also the point that buying surplus doesn't support American manufacturers, and the LBM is not a American mask, the fact that we haven't adopted it for military use should worry you.
With new made stuff you get peace of mind, guarantee to work, you get what you pay for with these things.
Parker Long
Actually bud, from an airboss rep they stated the LBM is currently in testing with Edgewood chemicals biological center (ECBC) At aberdeen proving grounds
Connor Watson
>"moar money = gud mask!!1!" >falling for the planned obscelescence meme
lol
Blake Hill
Whats wrong with the M50?
Jason Ross
mostly using proprietary filters. Raptor knows more, having owned both the LBM and M50.
Carter Davis
^this
Ryder Russell
I think that that is the best looking mask I've ever seen It's even better than pic related.
Uses bayonet (proprietary) filters, filters are supposed to be "superior" which although TIC (toxicological) rated, it leaks carbon like a motherfucker, small ass filter content, lacks an actual voicemitter, the only hoses for it are the M51 coupling hose, not applicable with PAPRs or SCBAs, only can work with a direct hookup (with the M51 configuration) to vehicular filters etc. LBM/M53 are currently the best choices, LBM being my preferred.
