Fuckin electro magnets, how do they work?
US Army Requests a New Submachine Gun
Asher Foster
Andrew Hughes
There's already M3 chambered in 9mm, and its still a shit gun
Noah Long
>Army wants a 7.62 rifle to replace the M16
>Army wants a submachine gun to replace M4 Carbine
Neither of these are correct.
Camden Kelly
gubment wants a submachine gun for pogs that they will never ever use
>the civilian market PCC's are all 2k$ foreign overpriced plastic
thank god for the ruger pcc but I want more options.
Hudson Wilson
Because only SF have ever used those, SOCOM does most of it's small arms procurement through Navy. Navy doesn't get too autistic when it comes to getting tiny batches of unique snowflake caliber guns and ammo.
Ammunition isn't available in large quantities in existing stockpiles.
>because the military doesnt have hundreds of thousands of rounds of 10mm stocked
I suspect they might be looking for some tens of thousands of guns, maybe even hundred thousand guns on long run. Amount of rounds will be count millions or billions if they adopt something in large scale.
>They can change that at the drop of a hat.
No, they can't. Replacing ammunition stocks of entire army is bit more expensive and takes years.
Because adopting a new caliber to military supply chain on large scale is expensive as fuck.
Picture kinda related. This something Magpul designed a decade ago, marketed for few years, but couldn't get a major gun manufacturer to license it and to pay for final R&D. Their marketing propaganda was pretty hilarious, but unfortunately true. Basically 5.56mm from very short barrel is worse than unique snowflake caliber PDW's at pretty much any range, but existing magazines and ammunition would save millions or billion in procurement.
Tyler Gomez
>Germany
Not russians or Chinese.
Jeremiah Gutierrez
>Not realizing 9-mike-mike has two different NATO standard loadings
>One designed for handguns
>One at much higher pressure for SMGs
>Not knowing several older handgun models come with a warning specifically not to use SMG loads as they will over pressure the gun
>Hurr Durr standard hardball and 147 grain +p+ are literally the same thing faggots
Youu should try them both, and decide the difference for yourself
For science
William Kelly
Just pop a folder on a full auto 5.7
James Bailey
You clearly don't know many germans
Nathan James
Logistics are the US Mil strong point and these trials directly benefit industry and often civilian options down the road. I don't give a shit about military spending any more and the mil only has to pay for bodies doing the testing anyway. Everything else is up to the companies that want to sell their design and even they know they aren't going to be selling shit. Trials are just bigass expos