Full proof armor

Joshua Bell
Joshua Bell

in john wick 3 there's a squad of soldiers with fully impenetrable armor
is that shit real?

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Joseph Lee
Joseph Lee

No

Hunter Price
Hunter Price

why not?

Anthony Gonzalez
Anthony Gonzalez

because a suit of impenetrable armor is a solid cube of hardened unobtanium that completely encases the person, suffocating and immobilizing them.

any gain of mobility or utility or feasibility requires less effective protection.

Bentley Davis
Bentley Davis

Impenetrable by what, a needle? Yes I think such armor exists.

Jason Richardson
Jason Richardson

Build something fool proof and I'll build something anti-fool proof.

Connor Sullivan
Connor Sullivan

full proof

Jayden Walker
Jayden Walker

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Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

This movie was Jow Forums and /b/ cel kino at it's finest.

Matthew Diaz
Matthew Diaz

excuse my newfaggrotry, what movies is this from?

Zachary Myers
Zachary Myers

there’s good threads about this in quora but essentially it boils down to it being too heavy (especially considering these materials were all funded by militaries for soldiers who are already encumbered with other shit) and also due to lack of materials. Rifle rounds are REALLY strong and their concussion alone can disable a Target even without penetration

Tl;dr guns are too powerful

Caleb Ross
Caleb Ross

Rampage
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampage_(2009_film)

Samuel Evans
Samuel Evans

in john wick 3 there's a squad of soldiers with fully impenetrable armor
Only because The Continental apparently only lets its staff carry handguns despite stocking full auto battle rifles. When Wick and the concierge dude break out the shotguns, those tacticool armor dudes got melted.

Nicholas Garcia
Nicholas Garcia

obvious visible airsoft
shitty plastic armor
this is somehow "kino"
neck yourselves.

Ayden Richardson
Ayden Richardson

Who are you quoting?

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Kayden Jenkins
Kayden Jenkins

The armor was resistant to the handguns that the conceige staff and Wick were using.
They weren't impenetrable.
That's why they were getting sliced in half by shotgun slugs.

They probably had full aspect coverage level 4 armour and ballastic headgear.

David Flores
David Flores

Specialized swat teams have full body Kevlar but that only stops up to pistol and birdshot.
Probably if you wear a passive exoskeleton you could carry the weight of a suit of armor that includes ceramic plates for the whole body.
Anything more powerful than 6mm is going to zip through that, also too many overlapping plates is gay.

Gavin Bell
Gavin Bell

It's a hell of a lot more practical to armor the center body mass, preventing most potentially fatal wounds while allowing the user to still maneuver and fight effectively. Armor on the limbs 'feels' heavier then armor on the torso and is more limiting. Ceramic backstopped with Kevlar or UHMWP to defeat most small arms covering you from shoulder to fingertips would make it a hell of a lot harder to fight.

Gabriel Richardson
Gabriel Richardson

I think we need fully articulated skeletons for this desu, we need to mount larger and heavier plates. Err. Well on earth anyways, moon side you can get some pretty heavy armour. And on mars you cut 70% of the weight off meaning you might be able to get away with full ceramic plates, now your trouble is getting some manfuacturer to custom make the plates, and build entire sets that can be interlocked like old forms of steel armour

Tyler King
Tyler King

Yes, given that they were being shot at by 9mm carbines and once they started getting shot at by slugs they started dying.

Which leads me to a question, why the fuck did that hotel not have a couple of M4 carbines and a handful of magazines with M995? That's rhetorical, it's because they crawled up their ass with the 3 gun shit.

Nolan Rogers
Nolan Rogers

full level 4
killed with shotguns

They probably had full IIIA, maybe no rifle plates at all

Luis Long
Luis Long

damn, I just noticed whole movie was gun restriction PR.
why would you schizos need military calibre weapon, while john wick could kill his enemies with pistol & shotgun?
shit.

Dominic Turner
Dominic Turner

and now we're arguing about a shitty movie, a power fantasy at that

No it's not real, zoom zoom.

Carter Green
Carter Green

Weight and mobility, mobility can be up to a point compensated by tactics but there is no way to get over weight. Even then big boy armor only gets up to pic related these days and the dude is mostly a shield bearer bullet sponge for a police breaching team.

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James Murphy
James Murphy

Russians have some full body flak armor.

Gavin Jackson
Gavin Jackson

because if they were truly impenetrable, you literally would not be able to move due to
excessive weight
Having no bends or joints to make the suit "impenetrable"

Parker Collins
Parker Collins

fully impenetrable armor

Only to pistol ammo. Steel shotgun slugs went right through them. It was stupid that Wick didn't just grab the galil on the wall at the start. It's something he would take even if he didn't know he'd be going against armor.

Carter Walker
Carter Walker

My apologies, I have no experience with plates although I do own rifles.
(Guess the country?)

Furthermore I always thought a 12 gauge slug could go through body armour/plates

Lincoln Watson
Lincoln Watson

Furthermore I always thought a 12 gauge slug could go through body armour/plates

lol, no. shotguns are on a level with handguns. they may do more BFD but soft armor will generally stop them no problem.

Brayden Reyes
Brayden Reyes

Our material science hasn't advanced to the point that current bullets are ineffective against it. It will though, which will trigger a corresponding increase in firepower. Rest assured at some point in the future we'll see fully armored kniggas on the battlefield again.

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Nathan Gray
Nathan Gray

Slugs are designed to deform and dump their energy in soft targets. A shotgun slug is typically made of lead, which is a soft metal. They are also big projectiles. They move slowly. Most armor piercing ammo is small and fast. The best way to get some level of AP from a shotgun slug to either make the slug out of hard steel, or use a sabot round.

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Anthony Young
Anthony Young

We won't. Matter always loses to energy.

Austin Rogers
Austin Rogers

Gayest movie series ever

Christopher Parker
Christopher Parker

one of the north hollywood guys sewed his own kevlar and did a really impressive job and the other one was real sloppy about it. cops did nothing until they got rifles from a gun shop nearby

Nathan Wilson
Nathan Wilson

Yeah, and Iron Chef is a super ninja. Use your brain.

Alexander Gonzalez
Alexander Gonzalez

decided to use pistols against heavily armored opponents
predictably went awful
WE NEED SOMETHING WITH MOW PIERCIN POWAH
Goes with a fucking shotgun of all things
Dumbest part of all 3 movies desu

Owen Wilson
Owen Wilson

Also, sectional density is as important as velocity. 12ga slugs have awful sectional density

Nathaniel Morris
Nathaniel Morris

Russians have some full body flak armor.
Where can I get some?

Alexander Mitchell
Alexander Mitchell

Eh not intentionally. They market their taran tactical products in said movie and during freedom week in california, that company was one of the earliest selling high caps to civilians. They are good people.

Caleb Edwards
Caleb Edwards

Now I got two guns, one for each of ya.

Bentley Price
Bentley Price

You may be able to stop the bullet, but there isn’t much you can do about the shit ton of kinetic energy that just impacted your fleshy meat body. Heavy armor really isn’t useful as the idea is to not get shot at to begin with, which heavy armor will affect with lowered mobility on top of all the other shit the soldier/merc/whatever in question has on them. Until exoskeletons become more developed and refined heavy armor is a moot point at best. And if the suits in question were somehow fully impenetrable to where some real fucking NATO wouldn’t be able to make a dent the guy in the suit wouldn’t even be able to move due to the weight or complete lack of any mobility. Those guys in John Wick were able to take pistol rounds, but once rifles and slugged shotguns got into the picture they too got Wick’d.

Ian James
Ian James

They likely had level 3 armor. Despite having access to a large selection of rifles that could have easily penetrated the body armor, Wick and the concierge decided to go with shotguns loaded with "armor piercing" slugs so they could make some more revenue for ol Taran. It's a shame because it's a pretty good movie but any shred of realism went out the window when they picked the shotguns over any of the 5.56 or 7.62 rifles.

Luke Foster
Luke Foster

Thank you for explaining, learn something new every day.

Blake Bell
Blake Bell

No user, any shred of realism went out the window when John AND the High Table SWAT team both decided to use 9mm ARs.

Nolan Gutierrez
Nolan Gutierrez

They were using 9mm in that scene, so yes to a degree.

Jason Moore
Jason Moore

It wasnt fully impenetrable in the movie, repeat shots at close range did kill.

But the closest historical situation would be Storm-333 when Russian special forces captured and killed a ton of guards armed with SMGs guarding Afghanistan's former prime minister/president

Justin Gray
Justin Gray

personaldefenseworld.com/2019/08/schumer-regulate-body-armor/ New York is really faggy.

Easton Bailey
Easton Bailey

will generally stop them no problem.
Not really, it stops it, but the slug just pulls the armor along with it and fucks you the fuck up anyway. You need hard plates to actually survive a slug.

Oliver Martin
Oliver Martin

Iirc, they were using tungsten core slugs or some bullshit

Nicholas Baker
Nicholas Baker

Rifle rounds are REALLY strong and their concussion alone can disable a Target even without penetration
Oh fuck off.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ji5VpHaNySw

Colton Myers
Colton Myers

dgbakery.site/
I remember seeing some field pictures of those suits somewhere but those aren't in any large scale use.

Aiden Flores
Aiden Flores

Weren't they using Sig MPX's? And it's not entirely unbelievable that people fighting in close quarters would elect for a submachine gun over a 5.56 rifle when you aren't expecting to run up against armored opponents.

Parker Taylor
Parker Taylor

You could probably make some if you were extremely good at sewing and had a lot of level IV ceramic plates and a roll of Cordura. It would literally look like some Call of Duty juggernaut suit shit though and you would need to be extremely fit to wear it, and it wouldn't really be useful for the current applications body armor is used for by state sponsored actors.

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Aaron Turner
Aaron Turner

I'm almost certain he described them as steel sabot in the movie

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