Will the Brit's new frigate be any good?

>YOU CAN ONLY BUILD ONE SHIP AT A TIME!
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Pakistani isn't a language, it's a nationality.

I bet this guy thinks Judaism isn't an economic unit

It has way better range and coupled with smart munitions is more effective than hit to kill CIWS.

>YOU CAN ONLY BUILD ONE SHIP AT A TIME!
THEY CAN'T EVEN MANAGE THAT

>starting to
2 nations have them fielded for years already

Also Oto Melara has a 76mm with actively guided shells, completely ready to sell.

10/10 meme

Reminder that one of the frigates main roles will be taking over anti piracy, patrolling and maritime policing activities to free up the Type 45s for more important deployments. They arent designed to be taking russian/chinese warships head on.

Range probably, these ships can see to 20km they probably want to be able to shoot things for some appreciable fraction of that. Imo they should have had four 75mm and six goalkeeper CIWS, weat always underguns their ships to fit in the extra candy bar storage warehouse.

>"cannon fired missiles" that tanks are starting to use?
lol I bet you think ERA and APS is new too.

76mm seems to have fallen out of favor with Anglo navies. They’re either going up to 5 inch or down to 57mm.

>building new frigates
>will soon be the only other nation to operate more than one supercarrier
Woah, is this the power of the anglosphere?

Having something for extreme observation range is essential.

no

Is this confirmed now, or one of the design proposals submitted?

Seems almost like they're taking cues from the French avisos. More corvette than frigate, but with the range to stay on station or perform longer patrols so the main fleet assets can handle the important stuff.

Except they currently have 12 ships/subs in build?

1x 65,000 ton carrier
2x 8,000 ton frigates
4x 2,000 ton OPVs
4x 7,800 ton SSNs
1x 17,000 ton SSBN

Arrowhead 140 as base hull is confirmed.

The fitting of systems is not.

This is partly because it takes the Brits like three times as long to build an Astute as it does the US to build a Virginia because they're trying to keep their sub industry alive over the long haul

>supercarrier
>gas-powered

they can power it with coal as long as it works

>rotating AESA
KEK. You won't see mediocre shit like this on a Chinese frigate.

>Reminder that one of the frigates main roles will be taking over anti piracy, patrolling and maritime policing activities

Why can't Russians understand this? Their building frigates that carry 24 nuclear tipped cruise missiles and 32 anti air missiles with 200km++ range.

The 40mm are intended as large bore CIWS. presumably to one-up the dutch and their BRRRT CIWS

Looks like an outdated PoS or an oversize LCS.
This will be obsolete by the time it launches.

Because the only pirates Russians are likely to face have nuclear missiles.

>chinook-capable flight deck
>merlin-sized hanger
What did they mean by this?

>2 carriers
>arguably the best marine corps in the world
>global reach

What did ivan mean by this?

The Mk 110 has a much greater range.

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can carry a chinook on the outside or let one load/unload on deck

reminds me of pic related. Bit worrying. Low intensity war philosophy

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>Low intensity war philosophy
same, that shit sailed long ago

This ship is more heavily armed than the Type 31, so I don't really see the comparison? I do agree though that not mounting some kind of anti-ship missile on the Type 31 is weird, even the LCS is getting back-fit with the NSM.

How's it going with your single carrier frog faggot.

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>7000 tonne "frigate"
This is embarrassing. Unironically just buy Chinese. Pic related is only 300 mil at 3500 tonnes.

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>This is partly because it takes the Brits like three times as long to build an Astute as it does the US to build a Virginia because they're trying to keep their sub industry alive over the long haul
Or, you know, maybe the US has more than one yard working on their attack subs might have something to do with it.

> I do agree though that not mounting some kind of anti-ship missile on the Type 31 is weird

Given the mission fit has not been stated yet, you can't know that. OP is an assumption by what is basically a blog, based on what industry is saying they could do.

Goalkeeper was retired from Royal Navy vessels so it wouldn't make sense to install a legacy system that is no longer used on other ships, and requires through-deck installation.

I think whoever created that image probably got it wrong though, and the 40mm gun will probably be Thales' RAPIDFire of a similar type to the 40mm CTA gun we are getting for Warrior and Ajax

>weighs two times more than an oliver hazard perry
>carries only one helicopter instead of two like the OHP
>has 50mm gun instead of 76mm like OHP
>no torpedo functionality while OHP has two integrated tubes
>20 missile VLS magazine while OHP has 40 missiles
>carries 100 people while OHP carries almost 200
What the fuck is the extra space and weight FOR???

IS IT FOR THE CAPTAINS COMIC BOOK COLLECTION!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?

It should have twice the range of an OHP

>carries only one helicopter instead of two like the OHP
It'll fit two Wildcats. Merlin is a very large helicopter so making a requirement to carry two, means allocating a lot of space.

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Kek

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Bullshit stat, there's no need for a 18000 km range frigate, that's like three continents worth. OHP has 10,000 thats more than enough. I would say having 0.01hp/t versus the Type 31 0.005hp/t (two times less!) is more important because it can get under way faster, and maneuver far better.

Type 31 is basically a destroyer that is armed like a corvette.

>I can't understand why this patrol/GP frigate has the capability for long-range patrols
You're an idiot, you know what speed Burkes do 95% of the time? 12-13 knots. Exchanging some fantastic range for a marginal speed gain is a pure gimmick.

>I'm not seeing a towed array
Not gonna make it.

I'm not talking speed, I'm talking twice faster ACCELERATION. If it takes you two times longer to change your direction, you're going to be fodder for missiles AND cannon.

And why does range matter if after travelling 18000km to the battlefield this shitty "frigate" only brings a corvettes weapons to the fight?

How many times does this need stated?

THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL SHIP EQUIPMENT FIT

This is a fucking blogs opinion based on what they feel is likely on the opinions of the people who make the fucking equipment. Of course they aren't going to mention things that don't belong to them. Why do you think it's all fucking BAE/MBDA kit? Because thats the only people they asked.

Jesus fucking christ Jow Forums.

That in an emergency a Chinook can land on the frigate if it needs to. It's good to have the capability.

>arguably the best marines
Not really. They're amphibious light infantry with organic air-mobility and a doctrinal emphasis on arctic and mountain warfare. Yeah, pound for pound they're surprisingly capable in their doctrinal niches, but they're also only 8,000 men at maximum operational strength including reserves and their most significant form of fire support is a regiment of 105mm howitzers from an Army unit that historically deploys alongside them.