>be 20 yr old kissless virgin
>parents divorced when young
>live with mother who is both physically and emotionally abusive
>have struggles laughabley with women all my life but i still try because my brain needs love and a person to nut into
>brain keeps reminding my how inept i am, even though i do well in social situations and have little difficulty making people laugh
>day 9 of nofap cause im hoping i kill my anxiety and lack of motivation
So what's up, Jow Forums?
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Nothing much my dude. And yourself?
seek a therapist
learn how to control your mother.
I like to be purposely awkward.
>girl says "nice weather"
>look her in the eyes and say "thanks"
>she giggles
>shes probably thinking I'm loser
>at least I made her giggle
Doing pretty well. Going out with friends tonight for a small party. Thank you for asking
I moved out a few months ago for uni. The environments different but I still carry the baggage with me. Meditation, nofap, good friends all help, but I fear I'll never be completely free. And that's gonna be the thing that scares away potential SOs.
Keep tryin bro. Just had my first kiss last month at 20.
Just rsd man
They have compressed eons of self-help in actionable methods
She probably thought it was cute.
Op I'm similar to you but 23 ,it will get better. It hasn't for me much but trust me it will eventually.
What you should stop doing
>Letting your mom push you over
>Nofapping
What you should do
>Sleep properly
>Fix your posture
>Develop positive self talj
>Lift
>Study
This is all you need to achieve chadom.
Thanks senpai
I'm skeptical on dating advice guys and behavior science but I'll check it out in my free time since you recommended it.
I do NoFap because I'm a serious porn addict, it's the number one cause of my anxiety goes through the roof and my energy levels + motivation are crippled. I made it 40 days once and it did wonders so I'm playing serious with this.
social skills are skills, retard. You didn't practice when you were young so you are behind. You can catch up by exposing yourself to social situations and talking to people
this its not hard once you realize this.
Do something super simple say hello to 5 people and that's it. Then do it over and over again until you feel comfortable doing that. Then do something after that like asking how they are and build from there.
I'm pretty good at being likable and carrying conversation but that doesn't mean I don't have anxiety. My issue is that sometimes it comes out (especially when high or drunk) and people see my self pity. I'm aware of how repulsive it is but it just comes natural to me and I know my low self esteem is to blame.
On a side note, practicing MMA regularly has really helped me get more confident.
I see user. For me it was just a waste of time, but each to their own.
bump
Corey wayne is pretty good as far as dating advice goes
I can't carry a conversation. I can't even tell a story. How the fuck do i learn to talk? I'm at a strange place in my life where I should have learned how to do these things a long time ago like talking or approaching girls. No ever taught me or my parents discouraged it at a young age.
OP here
Carrying a conversation can be quite easy if you stop thinking and calculating and start trying to have fun, learn about the other person, etc.
1. Have an interest in the other person. People LOVE talking about themselves and WILL spill their guts to you if you ask questions that reveal their character to you. This will make you seem thoughtful and trustworthy.
2. When talking about yourself, never self pity and seldom use jokes that target yourself. Looking weak will make people respect you less. Carry yourself well, be aggressive but tender, have good posture, project your voice, and be friendly. Conversation and attraction is tug-o-war, a push-pull dynamic with both sexes.
3. Stop being beta and cultivate confidence and self respect. Stop jerking off to porn for a start, working out regularly, pick up an athletic hobby (mma is great), go out more (when your friends ask you to hang out or go somewhere new, GO WITH THEM, DO NOT STAY HOME). These things will passively improve your character and image (to the self and to others)
While I have sharp spikes of anxiety/depression I have no problem talking to people, getting to know the,, and winning them over. It's because I'm transparent and friendly, without being a push over. Getting girls? That's beyond my full understanding heh heh. Hope I helped even a little
Self-deprecating humor will make you look stronger, not weaker if you are a respected individual without autism.
all good advice op. you should read models by mark mason. It seems like a perfect fit for you to help you into getting girls. Looks like you are 90% there anyway you just need to know how to "close"
>making a quick jab at your shortcomings and laughing awkwardly while other people look down from embarrassment
Self depreciating humor will make you look like an autist if done so in large doses. A little joke here and there is fine but too little is better than too much
a lot of it's in the execution, like "haha wow that was dumb of me" because you thought it was funny vs. "hey guys look at me I'm so stupid right???"
Fuck I don't have any friends they are 500 miles away. All I do is work, lift, and sleep. I'll try to go to a bar on Saturday and see where that takes me. Hopefully I can get buzzed enough to loosen up. Should I try Xanax or propanolol im desperate here.
Don't take any drugs if you think it'll help your confidence or your social skills because they won't. If you need a catalyst a drink or two is good but more than that is too much.
Also, make friends at work, plan shit for the end of the week when everyone's burnt out and ready to mingle after long week of work. If you're lucky you can squeeze into an already close friend group like Joey from Friends.
I know how you feel but you gotta be creative here.
Hey thanks. I got friends at work but the problem is they are between 40-60yrs old. I'm the youngest at work at 25. Kinda sucks. I'll be joining a sport league once registration opens tho.
Guy I like just said this on tinder
“I don’t play games I handle ;)”
What do I respond
>be in class
>talking with some busty thicc latina qt about medicine stuff
>first time talking with her seriously
>totally interested
>touching her hair
>eye contact
>giggling
>fuckyes making it brahs thnka you zyzz
>suddenly call from mom
>youtube.com
>"no"
>awkard silence
>awkward look
>"m-maybe she likes ultra instict style, a-alpha as fuck"
>keep talking with her
>be nervous, face red as dick about to cum
>some retards start singing the song
>she turns aside to listen to class
>tfw
just kill me