Normies start talking about fitness

And I tought I was the only one

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>if you eat at a deficit, your body will preserve your fat instead, making you even fatter

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What are you talking about

I cant see it, its just a fish senpai

I’ve stopped talking to three girls because they tell me they’re gonna get too muscular from lifting. Fucking retards.

You derailed this thread by being a tremendous faggot

>OMG user, you eat so many eggs? aren't you afraid of cholesterol?
this one is true though

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i cant fucking see it you guys are probably high on some shit

>I don't want to be one of those people that obsess over counting calories
>I've been avoiding fruit because it has sugar and sugar is always bad
> What do you mean I can't 'spot reduce'?

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The fruit thing is debatable though. I know many people that gorge on fruit like it has no calories because it's "healthy".

Mate...

What the fuck are you on

Hell to the fuck no it is not ture at all. This meme needs to die. There's reason they make burn victims eat upwards of 20-30 eggs a day. Cholesterol is good, both LDL and HDL. There is no "bad" cholesterol. It doesn't clog your arteries either, it glues them back together after cheap processed salt full of glass cuts them to ribbons and keeps you from dying of internal bleeding. Don't get me started on saturated fat. I'm so fucking tired of retards parroting crisco and margarine marketing myths from the fucking 70s and thinking their smart.

>dat pic

still looks better than 90% of Jow Forums

fruit has fibers which regulates the insuline you get from the sugar in it. Eat all the fruit you want breh

>fat guy failing his diet
>Yea ive gained 2kg in the last few weeks but I reckon it's just muscle

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are any fats, trans, saturated, or other, dangerous?

Oh God this is me FUUUUUCK

how autistic should i be to be able to see what you're seeing?

>omg user, don't you know how bad those energy drinks are for you?
Says a 300lb coworker
>I reaaaaally need to go on a diet, I've gained so much weight!
They say while eating fucking pizza

I work at a pizza joint, so there's pretty much free pizza all the time for the workers, and almost every new employee just slowly balloons up after they start working there.

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Couldn’t see it at first then I eventually did. Felt the need to help those who still can’t. Here’s the first one I did.

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Closer version. Also I like short-haired grils.

Whoops. Forgot pic.

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I saw it like this

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Jow Forums-approved version

THINN & THICC

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Bro no. I did an experiment on myself eating 3 whole eggs more than usual to a total of 6 a day (3 is my norm) and 1tbsp of coconut oil before workout, did a blood test before and after with 2 month span (nothing else of significance changed in my diet).

Blood cholesterol levels went up significantly to the 'danger zone' point. Cut down on eggs and other sat fats like coconut oil and they went back to normal. That said, I have naturally heightened cholesterol levels from birth so I personally have to be extra careful, some other guy might eat 20 eggs a day and be fine.

Use your own head and do rigorous tests, don't put blind faith in anything you read online.

rorschach-like effect. clean your room, stop watching hentai.

>yeah bro im so high test there's no way that fish looks like an ass
yeah okay larper

Make me, normalfag. Here: have anotherーnow with some booty hole.

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Eh, now that I think about it, it’s more like poonanny.

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Hey guys check out my anecdotal evidence, fuck off anti-egg shill.

bro. you will never see a more authentic self of me than on this platform. i am no larper, i am a former fatty tryna make it. i saw a fish. that's it.

I initially did so too, but just did it considering the site we’re on. I don’t even watch hentai. Cheers.

Spot reducing and getting too big is what drive me up the wall. I’ve had people come to me asking how to get rid of core fat and when they hear “eat less or healthier” is like they get slapped in the face. They expect some sit ups will automagically work. And boy, getting too big. Man, I’m not huge by any means. 5’9, 170lbs @12%bf and when I tell them my routine “it’s too much, I don’t want to get big”. Nigga wut. You look like a troglodyte at the moment, get a fucking grip.

>STEROIDS ARE DANGEROUS DRUGS!
>THE SIDE EFFECTS ARE REALLY BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH!
>YOU'RE OBSESSED WITH THE GYM, EVERY DAY I ASK YOU TO COME DRINKING BUT YOU SAY IT'S BAD FOR YOUR "GAINS", THIS IS UNHEALTHY!

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That is the worse. No matter how much i tell my girlfriend she wont get too big, she wont do any lifting because she thinks she'll turn into some female body builder.

Girl if you had those genetics....

roidcel cope

Mods delete this

LDL and free radicals cause arterial inflammation leading to atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries). Though some people handle it better than others. LDL is bad.

>natty cucks

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Yes user, steroids are 100% harmless, the side effects are way over blown in the MSM, that’s all! It’s 100% care free easy gains with absolutely zero downsides in the short term, long term, or ever! It’s literally healthy! Everyone should do it!

are the more or less dangerous than alcohol?

>LDL and free radicals
Free radicals and LDL are two different things.

>LDL is bad.
So why does your body produce LDL if it is so bad? Is the only reason to produce LDL to fuck yourself up? Could it be that high LDL is correlated with another factor that causes atherosclerosis?

I took a class on stem cell therapies, one topic was atherosclerosis. The prof does arteriogenesis research. I'm not at my computer to pull up the journal articles we used.

LDL in low levels is manageable by the kidneys and immune system iirc.

I watch hentai everyday and I saw a fish.

Remembering more, Advanced Glycation Endproducts like Oxidized LDL (from free radical presence) trigger immune inflammatory response and get swallowed by macrophage foam cells, and end up dying in the endothelial layer.

Of course, homeostasis is a comex equation, so we can keep eating all the eggs:
>Clinical and dietary guidelines have pinnacledLDL cholesterol as an important targetto prevent the occurrence ofCAD. Recommendations to limit the intake of saturated fats and cholesterol are based on the assumption that these types of fats will raise LDL cholesterol and thereby increase risk. Hence, low-fat food products have beenrecommended and marketed with the aim of reducing the burden of cardiovascular disease.

>Nonetheless, compared with low-fat diets, low-carbohydrate diets provide greater improvements in parameters associated with insulin resistance, such as HDL cholesterol, VLDL, LDL particle size and particle number (40). Moreover, low-carbohydrate diets provide greater reductions in inflammatory markers than low-fat diets (41).

>I took a class on stem cell therapies
Good for you. Now you should just take a class on scientific thinking.

"I did X therefore you are wrong" is not the proper way to form an argument. If you are an expert on the subject you don't need to tell everyone that you are an expert, you can just prove the other side wrong with arguments.

You are right that LDL can be oxidised and then be damaging. But LDL (just like HDL) is still a very much needed protein.
High LDL is associated with a ton of health problems, because high LDL is associated with being FAT.

Here have an article going into more detail:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4513492/

And I've argued with dozens of idiots that weasel out of arguments because akshually causation hasn't conclusively been proven. LDL permeates the endothelial layer along with VLDL. LDL occupies foam cells and damages arteries. The process isn't very reversible.
>but why does our body make stuff that harms us?!?!
Because the human body is always working against itself to maintain homeostasis. pH, bone growth, temperature. It's the same kind of dumbfuck logic that says natural is good. Well go eat some apple seeds then, dumbfuck.
>article about statin drugs, mediterranean diet
Like I said, it's about the whole picture when you look at diets. Statins are shoved down our throats from big pharma because we're drug happy. My 60yo pops is on simtorvastin or some other shit and refuses to change his diet for his high bp.

Mine thinks that 2lbs dumbbells are enough for hypertrophy. I felt insulted when she told me she actually bought a pair.

>Your body can only process x grams of protein per meal
>I have big legs from running
>I could beat you in a fight

Yeah sure. Except it doesn't.

>Forms a hypothesis, conducts an experiment for an extended period of time, lists controls
>Makes sure to tell everybody at the end about his own physical conditions that may have messed with the results and that they're probably not 100% accurate
>"Pffffff hey guys much annecdote! Fuck I'm so smart haha"
You're a simpering retard and I hope one day you drown because you forget you can't breathe fucking water.

>can't get big without roids
>needs a crutch

>on Jow Forums
>not a normie

No, it isn't. Please stop parroting meme bait and get a fucking education

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An experiment with a sample size of 1 and no repeatability is fucking stupid and useless, people need to take his post with a grain of salt.

I hope you get raped by a pack of niggers one day because you forget that they aren't our equals.

>Implying taking a formal class by taught by someone with a degree in said field doesn't count towards education
What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you the same retard that made fun of the guy who conducted his own experiment? Sure this user isn't a genius, but he is very much so entitled--probably more so than you--to speak on the subject because whereas you probably got all your information from personal research online, he went to a formal class and received actual information from a professional. What, does nobody have a right to speak on math now? We all went to classes for it but fuck, if you're not doing the research yourself, how do you really know what 2+2 is?

seek medical help

So did you just not read the rest of my post like you clearly didn't read his? The part where me makes the disclaimer that his results aren't 100% accurate? What you need to take away from this is that he saw an issue, asked a question, and took steps to answer it through perfectly valid means. Yes, it's annecdotal in the sense that it was a small sample pool and he didn't try it again, but motherfucker, you can't act like the big dick on the block with your shit just because you're too fucking stupid to understand anything he said and take the time to form an actual rebuttal.

>Recovering fatty
>One of the people I work with is a cardio bunny at my gym
>She asks how many calroies I'm eating
>1200-1500
>"Oh no that's way too little! Your metabolism will slow down so when you increase you'll put on weight!"

Is that bullshit mom science? I mean once I hit 12% BF I'll be slowly bulking anyway but still

Cuck

Thanks for admitting you don't have a leg to stand on. I'll call it a day.

it's worse to hear them talking about diet.

I've heard this as well. The logic is that when your body notices a severe drop in calories it thinks "shit i better save on to this saved calories (fat)" and burn less fat. As far as I understand, your body only does this if you are ACTUALLY near starvation. I am 99% sure that 100% of people who feed you this meme are nowhere near starvation themselves.

>Strawmaning this fucking hard.

What I am trying to tell you brainlet, is that LDL has a vital function. Your body would not produce so much LDL if there was no net benefit. It is needed to transport cholesterol and other lipid soluble substances. If LDL fucks you up, it is because you are FAT and your diet is shit.
And contrary to your believe it is very much debatable if lowering LDL lets fat people live longer.

>B-b-but it can be oxidised and then damage your arteries.
Who would have thought that denatured proteins do that?

how do i stop being a lanklet like this guy it feels like looking in a mirror with those ribs

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>i just want to get toned
>squats are bad for your knees bro
>you’re gonna hurt yourself with all that weight!

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I was hoping that was the case.

Though saying that, 1200cal doesn't FEEL too restricting for me, so there's the chance I could have a slow af metabolism anyway.

Wtf are normies subhuman or what

you can't get big without roids unless you are talking about being a bloated fat fuck who's 3 plate bench 1rm after 10 years is bodyweight

ss+gomad

>>you’re gonna hurt yourself with all that weight!
they act like they could also move just as much weight but choose not to becasue they "train smarter"

sure man, your 50kgx10x5 is totally equal to my 120kg double uhuh

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>say something retarded
>get called out
>LOL TROLLED HARD AHAHAHAHAHAHA I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED
go back to Something Awful

Only the last point is accurate

Please learn to read. Really.

I took a class on X is not an argument. I am a professional in X is not an argument.
You need actual arguments.

You are right that I did some of my research online. That is what I did during my PhD in biochemistry, that is what I did during my postdoc and that is what I am still doing now (allthough I also took classes on the subject). That still does not change the fact that you should not use your credentials to form an argument. How can you not understand this?

>I can't believe you can eat that much and be so skinny
>Sucks down a triple choc muffin in one bite
>Seriously user, once you get older, you'll get fat, enjoy it while it lasts
>Chugs a bottle of coke
>It's not fair

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they go with the picture, imagine that fat fuck with his alcohol telling you this.

normies constantly drink alcohol

This kind of shit gets to me

>Fatty at work
>REALLY ballooned up over the past year
>IIRC, skinny girl showing her new leg tattoo
>"Oh I'm so jealous of how skinny your legs are"
>Eats like shit
>Does ZERO exercise

Idk if she's made peace with being a fatty or what, but jesus fucking christ she can't be that jealous.

>>Seriously user, once you get older, you'll get fat, enjoy it while it lasts

has anybody else had the following experiance
>"when you get older"
>tilts head back
>"all that muscle"
>pokes the air in front of you in a jerky motion
>"will turn to FAT!"
>grins smugly, crosses arms and leans back as if he's made some amazing point

I've had this happen to me three times and seen it two more times happen to other people. just another boomer meme, boomers seem to exclusively talk in memes these days

You have a point, but that's pretty much what you and everyone else in this thread are doing as well

cardiologists
>"don't eat eggs they will kill you according to our research from the 1950's"
>"All modern research is done by egg companies so let's ignore it and repeat the same mantra"
>"look at this vegan research that eggs are bad!"

the same cardiologists
>"Smoking relaxes your lungs according to 1950's research!"

>I'm not going to waste my life away in a gym

True

>once you get older, you'll get fat, enjoy it while it lasts

All old fat people say this. They like to think their obesity is beyond their control rather than a result of their sedentary lifestyles.

>hey have you seen suits? it's so good! I watched like 5 hours of it last night!
>hey have you seen stranger things? it's so good! I watched like 5 hours of it last night!
>hey have you seen Over the Garden wall? it's pretty shitty so i just watched How I Met Your Mother for 5 hours last night

That's a bullshit one too. I probably spend about 1 hour in the gym, maybe 10 or so minutes before depending on what I'm doing.

Over the Garden Wall isn't somehow magically better than How I Met Your Mother. They're both brainless pap.

>Over the Garden Wall
>brainless pap
it's 10 episodes of 10 minute cartoon retelling of Date's inferno with the added threat of a beast hunting the protagonists forcing them deeper into hell