Keto is bullshit

idk friend I'm doing keto and have four cups of steamed brocoli a day, still pissing stones, you know about net carbs and fiber right?

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Like I said I'm fucking around with it as a challenge, wasn't too hard to transition since I regularly eat less than 30% of calories from carbs.

But Christ alive is it a pain in the ass to get your micros when you're aiming for less than 30g of carbs for the day... And hitting 2400 calories without eating too much protein...

But the criticism you levy against it seems informed by fat fucks that'll never make it anyway.

From what I've researched it's presented not as a diet but rather a lifestyle.
And the best information I've seen come from sources that aren't selling anything.

So do you think it's completely illegitimate or rather your gripe is that it panders to delusional fatties?

What biological mechanism would keto inhibit which would make weight loss impossible without it?

I know fat loss is more complex than calories in versus calories out combined with regular exercise and planned nutrition but... Oh actually it isn't, so what are you on about?

>not doing keto WITH cico

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All I'm saying is that on CICO I lost maybe 2 pounds a week while on keto it was closer to 8 with the same caloric defecit.

Now I stopped doing keto for a single day and haven't lost weight on any caloric defecit including water fasting.

Either I'm a physical anomaly or it's more complex than you think.

Mostly illegitimate for all but short-term weight loss (and of course their original medical application). Most studies on keto look at time frames between a few weeks and 6 months, so there's no data to indicate what the long-term effects are on your body (specifically your cardiovascular system but also others). To your point, it's a nightmare to check your micronutrient boxes with such a limiting diet.

On the other side, there's a vast amount of data that proves there are diets that 1) work great for weight loss and 2) lead to great long-term health.

I eat nothing but animals and veggies (keto/LCHF), never count calories, and always maintain 10-12% bodyfat. Go another few months instead of giving up when you hit the first speedbump.

You have to consider that the more you weigh, the easier it is to lose weight. Your experience likely results in 1) fucking up ketosis with a cheat which spins that process out of control 2) have lower weight which means to maintain the same rate of loss you need to carve out a deeper calorie deficit.

Not to mention, that high-loss week doesn't seem at all indicative of your overall progress. You claim 65 pounds of weight loss over 7 months, which averages out to... just over 2 lbs a week.

How I got that number was that I remember being 330lbs and losing weight in September, but I didn't start keto until later than that, probably November then started seriously restricting calories in February. I do remember weeks where I'd lose a pound each day.

Also, I know weight loss gets harder as it goes on, but such a sharp drop from losing at least 5lbs a week to nothing is not indicative of normal diminishing weight loss.

-plateaus exist
-you admitted to fucking up keto

You're looking for answers but are rejecting every suggestion in defense of a meme. Don't know what else I can say.