>you can't work both your quads and hamstring to a signifgant degree you absolute retard.
Oh really? so that must mean that you don't use your quads during a deadlift? Interesting hypothesis.
>That's like saying you can work both your biceps and triceps properly in 1 exercise
Wow you've identified the existence of compound movements! Maybe since the deadlift and squat involve knee flexion and hip flexion at the same time that muscles associated with both are used?
>Setup for dead should aboslutely not look the same as a low bar at depth unless you squat high fag.
Look at pic related and imagine the guy on the right moves his hands down to his sides while staying in the same position...looks awfully similar to a deadlift. It's not exactly the same but it's close.
>Deads don't work you quads properly as they're in a quarter squat position, hence why deads are able to work your hams.
Quarter squats actually predominantly do work your fucking quads which is why dumbass bodybuilders do them over full depth squats.
>you''re either a retarded dyel or parroting rippetoe/alan thrall
You are beyond fucking simple and forget that squats and deadlifts are compound movements. Knee flexion involves the quadriceps and hip flexion involves the hamstrings and glutes. Squats and deadlifts both to some degree involve both. You can tell how much a muscle is recruited from the angle of the flexion. If you look at a low bar you'll see that since the torso is angled more horizontally that the hip is recruited more and also the knee angle is reduced meaning that the quadriceps are recruited less. The same is true in reverse. No need to thank me for this basic anatomy lesson but my advice to you is to fuck off and die retard.
Hate doing rows
Shut the fuck up faggot and do heavy yates rows
Your Point 1: A couple inches in knee extension is not an effective range of motion.
2. During the beggining of dead your hams are stabilizers until your quads extend a couple of inches at which point your hams and glutes do the rest of the movement. Once again a couple inches knee extension will not grow your quads.
Point 3
if you're hips are starting the same height in the photo in deads you aren't doing deads, you're doing a BB hack squat. Alan himself will tell you he make exagerations to prove a point. Active insufficiency is a very basic concept you retard.
Point 4. Once again not an effective range of motion JFC, show me a video with a bodybudler worth his salt doing legit quarter squats.
> knee flexion involes quads, hip flexion involves glutes and hams
Lmao it's the other way retard. The absolute state of Jow Forums if people think quarter squats will grow your quads.
Muscle ups combine 2 lifts, they aren't being work the exact same time.
phil heath pumps his ass full of enough roids to kill an elephant, what's your point
>Your Point 1: A couple inches in knee extension is not an effective range of motion.
never said it was
>2. During the beggining of dead your hams are stabilizers until your quads extend a couple of inches at which point your hams and glutes do the rest of the movement. Once again a couple inches knee extension will not grow your quads.
Again my original point was that the low bar squat is similar to the deadlift in terms of body position and muscles used. Both the low bar squat and the deadlift in my opinion are not effective quad builders I literally never said otherwise
>Point 3 if you're hips are starting the same height in the photo in deads you aren't doing deads, you're doing a BB hack squat. Alan himself will tell you he make exagerations to prove a point. Active insufficiency is a very basic concept you retard.
Once again I said it was similar but not the exact same. Please stop strawmanning me for the love of god.
>Point 4. Once again not an effective range of motion JFC, show me a video with a bodybudler worth his salt doing legit quarter squats.
THAT'S WHY I SAID DUMBASS BODYBUILDERS FUCK ME. Quarter squats give you a quad burn but obviously full ROM is better. Jesus christ dude I know that quarter squats aren't effective. fuck.
>Lmao it's the other way retard. The absolute state of Jow Forums if people think quarter squats will grow your quads.
No it fucking isn't holy shit. If you're sitting down take your leg and point it straight, do feel it in your glutes and hams? Now stand up straight and hinge at the hips without bending your knees and stand up straight again, do you feel it in your quads? No? Of course not. Once again, please kill yourself.
even athlenex says deadlifts are a leg exercise, and the first part of the lift is the same as a leg press
youtube.com
skip to 10:03
break the war which way? /-\ or \_/? up or down
my comment was on about how you can't work both your quads and hams siginifagntly at the same time. Your comment "Oh really? so that must mean that you don't use your quads during a deadlift? Interesting hypothesis."
Vs your current comment: "Both the low bar squat and the deadlift (which is a couple of inches knee extension ya dumbfuck) in my opinion are not effective quad builders I literally never said otherwise" and "never said it was
" Nice back tracking.
On my point 3: How am I straw manning when that was literally what you said, "imagine the guy on the right moves his hands down to his sides while staying in the same position...looks awfully similar to a deadlift." Once, again that would turn into a BB hack squat. I included the Alan Thrall comment because that is 100% where you got this retarded notion.
Also, I literally said quarter squats won't properly work your quads, and then you bring up that they will?? (read your own fucking comments)
You're making a trillion points then backtracking, it's extremely confusing/
Gonna be spending all night arguing with you. Seriously consider kys so I can get some sleep.
Once again you can push the leg press a couple of inches. Involves your quads yes, significantly work it? Absolutely not.
I never argued dead lifts weren't a leg exercise, nice straw man.