RIP

Good points but do you really think all the creative type people who were making proto-memes on 4chin in 2008 are now just the people begging for money on Youtube and twitch? I find that hard to believe. I think most of the type of people who were on Jow Forums back then have largely withdrawn from social interaction all together and are instead gaming or taking in the near endless supply of media that can be pirated.

im not op lmao

I presume they've simply been drowned out. I think that there are naturally going to be creative and intelligent types in any group. The issue is whether or not these people have any incentive to speak. Reddit bribes people to making long-posts pretending to be intelligent. Jow Forums might give you some (You)s if you word your post properly, so that you can arouse some feelings that most anons feel.

If gookmoot were interested in it, he could probably make Jow Forums a lot better. The issue is that Jow Forums functions off of datamining and ad-revenue, so catering to stereotypical NEET 4channers doesn't make sense to him in comparison to attracting as many people as possible. This is a problem across the entire internet really. Unless some millionaire creates a website just for shits and giggles, the WCW of websites, I don't see the internet breaking the shackles of consumerism and lowest common denominator normalfaggotry.

I did not say, nor imply, that you were OP.

>cant even properly greentext

FUCK YOU, DIE

How can any worthwhile internet or irl culture grow to the point it produces anything of significance if the instant availability of the internet causes it to immediately be flooded by LCD normalfaggots as you call them?

Glory is fleeing. The peak is necessarily followed by the decline. I think that everything works in cycles. Look at how Jow Forums reacted to the 2016 election, compared to how it's reacting to the mid-terms. Look at "internet blood-sports." These cultures can be created, but only temporarily. LCD normalfaggots will always rush to what's new and trendy in order to run it to the ground. Things will always decay. That doesn't mean we can't fight back against the decay. That doesn't mean that we can have a last hurrah into the past. That doesn't mean that we can't build new things. But it is very difficult to reverse decline. It takes conscious willpower by the people in charge in unison with a large portion of the population in order to do so. This is relevant to both the internet and nations as a whole.

You could have an invite-only forum that you can be banned from if you get a certain # of le downvotes (no upvotes) on a comment from regular users and then you need another invite.

Internal drama can usually take down insular communities.

If your goal isn't to milk the users for money and the site is bare bones (like Jow Forums) then who the fuck cares about controversy?

The 60's had a ten year build up followed by a three year peak. Now it seems like the buildup for any cultural movement is a few months followed by a less than a month long peak. How can anything of significance be accomplished in so short a period?