>even FUCKING MSi
It's all ogre, Applets.
Even FUCKING MSi
Christian Smith
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Lucas Jenkins
>nano-IPS
HA HAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Samuel Scott
muricans will still buy apple because it's makes them feel rich
Isaac Lee
It's fucking good, m8.
Logan Campbell
Apple is absolutely shit. About 2 years ago my dad bought a top of the line macbook costing something close to £2000.
He's given it the easiest possible life, he's almost never travelled with it and it sits on his desk 24/7.
This year the battery swole up and damaged the screen. They made him pay £500 for the repairs. It's disgraceful.
Jaxson Sanders
>2 years ago
Jobs was already dead, so...
Liam Ortiz
Fuckung boomers
Nathaniel Perez
>less than 100% DCI-P3 coverage
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Logan James
Oh wait, the Apple monitor has the same shitty specs!
Holy fucking shit, my sides! HAHAHA
Grayson Carter
Anything that's above 95% is super-fucking-good, you dumb shit. It's already way beyond 100% of sRGB.
Nathaniel Thomas
>HDR 600
XD XD XD XD XD
Alexander Rodriguez
It's fine, 400 is garbage, but 600 is acceptable.
Christian Sanchez
>60Hz
Jason Long
>the Apple monitor has the same shitty specs!
doubt it
Apple Display
contrast: 1.000.000:1
nit: 1000 sustained, up to 1600
Chase Powell
MSI
Contrast: 1200:1
Nits: 500 typical, 600 peak
Apple
Contrast: 1,000,000:1
Nits. 1000 sustained, peak 1600.
600 nits peak, 500 nits typical
Asher Moore
oh, how did you measure it?
Camden Edwards
I read the spces of both
Wyatt Price
This.
Apple is meant to be used as a reference monitor, not some gamer shit.
Cameron Ramirez
are you really this stupid?
Jack Lopez
Yeah these aren't even close to compatible. My shitty gamer Samsung you can get for like $300-$400 now can hit those MSI specs
Carter Fisher
>reading specs is stupid
Jacob Phillips
ANTI-APPLE SHILLS BTFO
Jackson Kelly
Why is such an extreme brightness a good thing?
Joseph Perry
all specs are 100% correct
you are a genius
I'm out of here
Leo Brooks
Jack Phillips
>comparing the monitor to the monitor instead of the stand.
the moving of goalposts now begins.
Jordan Wright
HDR content has brightness that goes well beyond 1000 nits in small areas of the frame. So in order to be able to correctly edit HDR content, you need a monitor like this one from Apple that can do 1000+ nits.
Jacob Williams
Yeah, 1000nits is pretty bare standard. The real deal guys doing it properly are future proofing for at least 4000 nits on something like a Dolby Pulsar.
Matthew Collins
I'd trust the Apple spec to be closer to reality than MSIs
Levi Kelly
>Applel
Jayden Davis
>contrast: 1.000.000:1
That's Dynamic, you dumb fuck. Literally 99.82% of all modern monitors on the market have it. Only Static contrast actually means something.
Thomas Gomez
Is it? They haven't specified but it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if it was static
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Tyler Morgan
1000000:1 Static is currently impossible, you dumb uneducated fuck. Even the most expensive and best panel tech that's currently existing on the market, even experimental proof-of-concept things that won't see the light of day until 2028 at the earliest, have 40000:1 at BEST.
Austin Powell
>$1000 stand
>$300 panel
uhhh what
Gavin Brown
>didn't read the links
Yeah, this is why you don't trust retards on Jow Forums
Michael Edwards
This is somewhat true in my country, only prostitutes use iPhone because that's what the sugardaddy usually gift them. Some normie even avoid it like plague in fear of getting mistaken as part time escort.
Levi Brooks
>Anand
>trusting
>ever
Kys kindly.
Hudson Hughes
They're just reporting what both Panasonic and Eizo reports so unless you're saying they're lying too.
Carson Gray
Again, you dumb fuck, I fucking WORK in the industry, I assemble and test this shit each and every fucking day for more than 11 years straight now. There's NO panel tech anywhere out there in existence that could ever do more than 40000:1 Static, and even THAT shit we you won't see selling anywhere (even for 100500 burgerinos) until 2028 at the earliest and in the best case scenario. Best IPS can do 1500:1 tops, best OLED can do 18000:1, currently best Quantum Dot can do up to 25000:1 tops.
Joshua Cruz
>i work in the industry trust me
Ok bud. I trust you. Surely a random user knows better :)
Adam Jackson
What? Wtf is this shit?
Austin Foster
not him, but whats likely? i dont believe a couple of old PR boasts about increasing contrast 1000-times over current tech, especially since they share no technical details.
I mean, how would they jump 3 orders of magnitude more contrast for a backlit panel, blowing away non-backlit tech eg OLED? Sure smells like BS.
Alexander Cook
>especially since they share no technical details
Maybe if you actually read it. Why is Jow Forums so against reading? It's not FALD/local dimming.
Sebastian Hall
>Panasonic has found a way to substantially increase contrast ratio of IPS LCDs using a high-brightness backlight and a special layer of light-modulating cells that enable pixel-by-pixel control of backlight intensity. These cells are made of light-tolerant liquid crystal material that has different light-transmission properties compared to those used in the display cells. The layer of light-modulating cells is placed between the backlight and the LCD cells and thus can control light leakage. At a high level, one could think of them like gates placed behind each pixel on the display.
Since Jow Forums is retarded.
James Baker
>*30 seconds after making that post*
Alexander Mitchell
>incorrectly representing the numbers
>flummoxed dynamic contrast with actual contrast
Ryan Bell
*also with PWM dimming
Joseph Cooper
I did read it, and i never brought up FALD/local dimming. Not sure why youve brought them up at all, other than they are a shitty way to increase contrast.
Landon Bailey
That isnt a technical description. Where's the detail or proof?
> we made a new layer that blocks backlight so well its better than what you'll get from microLEDs in 5 years!
...sure thing
Robert Morales
Not to mention that the Apple one has more DPI and 75% more pixels.
Gamers will never understand it. But it doesn’t matter, it’s not their target audience.
The target audience knows the difference and the actual competitors.
Aaron Rogers
Because that's the main way manufactures rate dynamic contrast. The tech isn't using it and that's how you get the high native. I'm explaining it for babies since that's what you people are.
It uses a layer that can block off light per pixel. That's all you need to know that it's static. Going into fine detail would probably lead on other manufactures and why would Panasonic do that?
Christopher Torres
You write like a person that crawld out of the sewer. Stay in the ghetto.
Joseph Davis
I think you think youre smarter than you are.
Andrew Smith
Welcome to 99% of Jow Forums? First day?
James King
>(Yep.. still just a stand)
iTODDLERS BTFO
Angel Nelson
Go and unironically slit your wrists, lamer imbecile.
Dylan Ward
I'm Apple's target customer, a professional editor/colorist. I still wouldn't use Apple's new monitor as a reference monitor. The people down the hall in graphics, use Wacom screens. I'm not sure they will sell a lot of those monitors. Unfortunately for us, we have to pay whatever Apple is charging for the MacPro since our workflow is ProRes 444/Raw.
Alexander Collins
what's the contrast on just the stand?
Evan Miller
Not enough (You)s the first time, faggot? Delete this post and then neck yourself.
Dominic Jackson
>a full MSI monitor is worth as much as an Apple stand
Ahahah lel at MSI what a trash chinkshit company
Kayden Jones
#REKT
#ITODDLERSONSUICIDEWATCH
#OHNONONONO
Aaron Bell
>MSI rose like a dildo up a plebbitor's ass in the monitor department
wew
William Rodriguez
My sister got an iMac and it somehow ate through 3 different HDDs in a few years and suffered from kernel panics all the time, that and the keyboard and mouse were absolute garbo, why do people fall for this meme?
Jose Brown
GAMER RISE UP !
Isaac Perry
based
Kayden Lee
they have to be, EU would rape their asses if they weren't
Kayden Smith
what exactly do you need higher framerate for except gayming?
Jordan Ross
What's the point if the screens of the users/consumers on which it will be displayed will be shit? Genuinely asking
Eli Jackson
faster internet browsing
Logan Flores
Consumer televisions are slowly catching up. Most recent FALD TVs can do 1000+ nits while OLED TVs are still doing pretty shit at sub 800 nits but at least they are also improving each generation.
In 2-3 years we'll finally have decent HDR televisions, so then the content can be seen in all its glory.
Elijah Young
Welcome to the world of furry 'your character here', where furry OCs are so interchangeable that artists will draw half finished artwork and have mouth breathers come along and have the artist fill it in with their particular flavour of sparkledog puke. This $5000 one is the most expensive YCH on record though by a far margin, usually they're far below normal commission prices (
Michael Lopez
This
Charles Adams
This nigga trusting a company that sells a $1000 stand
Eli Turner
based and redpilled
Gabriel Fisher
You're both fucking idiots that shitted themselves in front of entire web.
David Turner
What that other dude said, but we also probably want current content to be created in the best possible hardware so that it looks acceptable as long as possible. The shitty tv of tomorrow will eventually make the $10k screen of today look like an lcd screen on a watch from the 80s.
What other brands provide screens for professional visual content editing? Surely, Apple's screens are great but not up to par with real industrial solutions, right?
John Smith
5 parrots
Jeremiah Walker
since when a piece of metal has a constrast of 1.000.000:1 and nits of 1000 ? i tought we were comparing a monitor to a piece of metal not a 6.000 dollar monitor to a 1.2k monitor right?
Ethan Peterson
It's just Applel cockgobblers deflecting.
Jacob Turner
against this.
also i m curious who makes this 6k display of apple . didn t read anywhere if it s samsung or lg
Dominic Allen
>5120x2160
Literally WHY? You can buy a 5120x2880 monitor for $300 less
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Nathan Reyes
>What is local dimming
Hunter Lewis
>muh nits
>muh contrast
So where do diminishing returns kick in. Because human eye can only see so much.
Wyatt Cooper
Im honestly starting to believe the entire monitor market is a meme, I have a TN monitor, IPS monitor, IPS laptop, a VA TV and AMOLED phone. the only one that is noticeably worse during use is the TN.
Jonathan Ward
FALD is too raw and unpolished right now (literally just three 384-point and one 512-point models available on the market), and FALD doesn't do jack shit for increase in STATIC contrast. FALD only does dimming/lighting better, but CONTRAST is affected by TIME OF MATRIX, not by type of dimming. Again, you stupid uneducated fuckshits - 40000:1 is the MAXIMUM of what engineers were able to achieve with EXPERIMENTAL tech in labs, shit we won't see in consumer space for AT LEAST A DECADE. And most expensive Quantum Dot currently can do only up to 25000:1 MAX. And, again, DYNAMIC contrast (which that Apple shit is boasting of) DOESN'T MATTER JACK SHIT. There's been 1000000:1 and even 10000000:1 DYNAMIC contrast panels FOR YEARS, this shit doesn't matter AT-FUCKING-ALL. ONLY and ONLY static contrast metric matters.
Nathan Perry
The 6k screen has 578 local dimming zones.
Static contrast is important, but with good enough local dimming you can have viable HDR in most situations. Obviously a cursor on a black background will have a halo, but this screen is meant for people working on HDR content, not games with HUDs.
Besides, why would you buy a 6k monitor when you can get an 8k monitor for half the price?
Just because local dimming is technically a form of "dynamic contrast" doesn't mean it works even remotely the same.
Tyler Torres
Literally WHY are you responding to me when you're essentially agreeing with me?
Matthew Gonzalez
Because you act like FALD doesn't work just because in very specific situations you get a minor haloing effect.
All LCDs ghost, should we stop using LCDs? Even OLED displays don't have the motion quality CRTs have.
Juan Evans
What country?
Jace Wright
>Because you act like FALD doesn't work
I've never said that. FALD is amazing. But FALD doesn't do JACK to INCREASE sheer Static contrast metrics. Availability of FALD on a panel does NOT automatically magically increase Static contrast.
And your pic is ULMB, btw.
>All LCDs ghost
That's fucking BULL-SHIT. The "ghosting" is a thing that heavily relies on refresh rate and, thus, if a panel can output very high refresh cycles, no ghosting would be present. Unfortunately, the mainstream industry is nowhere near yet to do such high refresh in conventional monitors. You need AT LEAST 288Hz with ORT no higher than 4ms, to achieve complete smoothness with no ghosting whatsoever, even with no ULMB.
Joshua Young
Ghosting happens. My pic doesn't have ULMB.
Pic related. ULMB is actually about as good as we can get. Most monitors can't do it though, and it's doubtful a 6k/8k display would, at least in 2019.
Charles Scott
Again - mainstream CURRENTLY has ghosting still, but when panels with 288Hz and 4ms ORT start appearing, ghosting will be essentially nonexistent.
Dominic Martinez
I'll believe it when I see it.
OLED and MicroLED can do rolling scans, which work similar to CRTs, by showing the image as a fast moving bright dot, using our persistence of vision to display the frame.
Only OLED VR headsets do this though as far as I know.
Robert Clark
OLED is obsolete, because they couldn't fix the blue problem, for all these years.